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osagedr 03-31-2012 08:18 PM

Wyeast 2352 Munich Lager II
 
Part of the spring's lineup of PC yeast strains. I'm looking forward to getting this into something like a Maibock or even a Helles.

Anyone got any experience with this strain or know its brewery of origin?

Wyeast 2352-PC Munich Lager II Yeast

Beer Styles: Lager, Oktoberfest/Marzen, Munich Dunkel, Schwarzbier, Traditional Bock, Maibock/Hellesbock, Dopplebock, Eisbock

Profile: From a famous brewery in Munich, this strain is a low diacetyl and low sulfur aroma producer. An excellent choice for malt driven lagers.

Alc. Tolerance 10% ABV
Flocculation Medium
Attenuation 72-74%
Temp. Range 52-62F (11-16C)

beachy 04-01-2012 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osagedr (Post 3949863)
Part of the spring's lineup of PC yeast strains. I'm looking forward to getting this into something like a Maibock or even a Helles.

Anyone got any experience with this strain or know its brewery of origin?

Wyeast 2352-PC Munich Lager II Yeast

Beer Styles: Lager, Oktoberfest/Marzen, Munich Dunkel, Schwarzbier, Traditional Bock, Maibock/Hellesbock, Dopplebock, Eisbock

Profile: From a famous brewery in Munich, this strain is a low diacetyl and low sulfur aroma producer. An excellent choice for malt driven lagers.

Alc. Tolerance 10% ABV
Flocculation Medium
Attenuation 72-74%
Temp. Range 52-62F (11-16C)

I do not know anything about it but would also like to know it's origin.

The 11-16C ferment range is interesting.

SwampassJ 04-01-2012 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by beachy (Post 3950472)
I do not know anything about it but would also like to know it's origin.

The 11-16C ferment range is interesting.

I was thinking the same thing. Might make a good steam beer or a Kolsch at 62 degrees.

osagedr 04-01-2012 12:27 AM

I don't buy the low end of that temp range personally. I will use a stepped up starter to get to a big cell count then let 'er go at 48 and I bet it will be fine. Only thing will be to keep an eye on the gravity when it gets into the high 1.020s to time the temp increase correctly.

osagedr 04-13-2012 02:14 PM

Gonna try this one in a kit I am making for my inlaws (Brewhouse Light Canadian Lager). For the hell of it I am gonna do three of those kits: one with 34/70, one with S-189, and one with 2352 just to see how they differ.

periwinkle1239 04-17-2012 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by osagedr (Post 3990082)
Gonna try this one in a kit I am making for my inlaws (Brewhouse Light Canadian Lager). For the hell of it I am gonna do three of those kits: one with 34/70, one with S-189, and one with 2352 just to see how they differ.

Sweet! I was thinking of trying the 2352 out with the AG Bavarian Helles kit that NB is selling now. Lagers are a lot of work but definitely worth the reward.

osagedr 04-17-2012 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by periwinkle1239 (Post 4000212)
Sweet! I was thinking of trying the 2352 out with the AG Bavarian Helles kit that NB is selling now. Lagers are a lot of work but definitely worth the reward.

From the description seems like the perfect yeast choice for that beer.

osagedr 05-29-2012 12:21 PM

They aren't carbed yet, but in a side-by-side comparison with 34/70, the former is clearly maltier and the latter drier. Didn't end up using the S-189. I also found this yeast does not really like the lower temperatures 34/70 handles easily. I would't go under 50 with this one again.

bumstigedy 06-01-2012 12:56 AM

Picked up this yeast yesterday and going to brew an Octoberfest with it next weekend. So what temperature did you end up fermenting at? Was planning on typical modified Narziss fermentation, starting at 44F and letting rise to 50F over the first day and then fermenting at 50F until about 3/4 done and raising to 68F for a diacetyl rest.

osagedr 06-01-2012 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bumstigedy (Post 4133928)
Picked up this yeast yesterday and going to brew an Octoberfest with it next weekend. So what temperature did you end up fermenting at? Was planning on typical modified Narziss fermentation, starting at 44F and letting rise to 50F over the first day and then fermenting at 50F until about 3/4 done and raising to 68F for a diacetyl rest.

The only way I would be brave enough to do that is if I were pitching huge...like HUGE: 1.5 million cells per ml per degree Plato. And after using this yeast I probably even wouldn't do it then. I am making an Oktoberfest myself this weekend, target OG 1.057, and plan to use 2352 slurry (third generation). I will ferment it at 52.

There is just no point at all to taking a chance of getting stuck. The minimum temperature stated by Wyeast for this yeast is 52...so, based on my own experience, I can really see no reason to go lower than that. There really is nothing to be gained.

If you want to start fooling around in the mid to low 40's, pick a yeast that likes it there--like W-34/70 (Wyeast 2142) which I've gone cold with myself a number of times. Make yourself a nice pilsner or something. But with 2352 I really suggest 52 (ambient maybe more like 50). Your d-rest plan is smart--lagers don't always need them but again...it's a crapload of trouble if you don't do one and end up with diacetyl in your finished beer.

Good luck!


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