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Old 06-22-2010, 10:25 PM   #1
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Hey Guys,

I've got a situation with wyeast 2206 bavarian lager. I brewed a bock over the weekend and realized that after 72hrs at room temp, that I may have needed to pitch a starter. I dumped that beer and bought new ingredients and a new pack of 2206 and smacked it 36 hrs ago. I made the starter today and when I looked at the pack, it had swelled a little but not much. Still no activity on the airlock, which im not too worried about yet. I made an ale started off the same wort and its going nuts! I'm just curious if I got a bad batch of yeast. They all had the same mfg date of 09June10.

To yalls knowledge, is 2206 a slow starter? Has anyone else had issues with 2206?

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Old 06-23-2010, 12:14 AM   #2
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I made a starter with Wyeast 2278 Czech Pils on Friday the 18th planning to brew on the 20th. I saw no action in the starter until the 21st (Monday). I added yeast nutrient and O2 before adding the yeast to the flask. The starter is on a stir plate.

I smacked the pack and it sat for at least 6 hours before pitching and the pack was barely puffy. I have had no problems with Wyeast and as this is my firsy lager after brewing 35 or so ales, I'm at a loss.

I'm going to let the starter go until Saturday and if there is nothing there, I guess I have to buy a new pack.

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Old 06-23-2010, 01:35 AM   #3
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I have never had any problems with wyeast 2206 until this spring when my starter was very slow to take off. It eventually took off and the beer seemed to turn out ok except it finished higher than I expected (1.058 down to 1.017).

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I just finished up D-rest using this yeast. My OG was 1.052 and it didn't really begin bubbling once every 10 seconds or so until day 3. I pitched cool. I got to FG of 1.015 on day 8.

I also did a step up starter, and even pitched onto a two-day old starter so the yeast was already active when I pitched.

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Old 06-23-2010, 04:59 AM   #5
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Sounds to me like wyeast needs to figure something out.

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Sounds to me like wyeast needs to figure something out.
Did the smack pack swell?

I did a batch last year with either this or Munich Lager, and the pack didn't swell, nor did it start. I find when the date is over 2 months on lager yeast they take friggin forever to get going.
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Sounds to me like wyeast needs to figure something out.
How big was the starter you made for the beer?
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My smackpack demonstrated very little swelling. It was quite fresh - 1 or 2 months old. I made a gallon starter and stepped it up to 5 gallons for a 30 gallon batch of pilsener so I may have underpitched. I harvested the yeast and used it for a vienna lager. I am curious to see the FG of the vienna as I pitched more than enough yeast.

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How big was the starter you made for the beer?
Thats just it. I am talking about the starter. I havent pitched it into the brew. I havent even done the brew. The yeast doesnt even want to get going in a starter.

And....

Its not even a month old. This is my third pack of 2206 that is doing the exact same thing, all have a mfg date of June 2010. It sounds to me like I'm not the only one either.
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Thats just it. I am talking about the starter. I havent pitched it into the brew. I havent even done the brew. The yeast doesnt even want to get going in a starter.

And....

Its not even a month old. This is my third pack of 2206 that is doing the exact same thing, all have a mfg date of June 2010. It sounds to me like I'm not the only one either.
How do you know it is not starting?
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