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Old 07-28-2014, 04:03 PM   #1
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Default WLP099 in Secondary?

I started a Barleywine on 7/7 using the yeast cake of WLP007 from a pale ale. The OG was 1.103 and I was hoping using slightly elevated temperatures (66*F), a long low mash, good aeration, and the good pitch rate I would be able to get up to 80% attentuation.

Welp, looks like the yeast did not cooperate and my final gravity is about 1.025. While this is still within the style guidelines, I do like my beers drier and the sample is noticeably sweet (not unpleasantly though).

To dry this beer out some more, should I go ahead and pitch a 2 liter starter of WLP099 and let it ride for a few more weeks? (I would rack it off of the current cake though). Would the lack of oxygen be an issue for the yeast, maybe the shock of being added to a beer that is already over 10%?

My plan is to split it and pitch brett C into one half and leave the other half alone. I can't find solid numbers on its alcohol tolerance, but it seems like 12% is the most used number. Unless the WLP099 tears all the way through it the brett should be fine, and I would probably pitch them together.

Anyone see any issues with this idea?

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Old 07-28-2014, 09:59 PM   #2
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If you hit 1.025 all the way from 1.103, I would say the WLP007 did a fine job. That is 76% attenuation in a 10.2% beer, thats pretty commendable for most yeast strains. If you want to dry it out, WLP099 is a great choice. Since the beer is already so strong, you will certainly want to make a yeast starter with it and then pitch that into the barleywine at high krausen. If you were to just pitch the yeast when it is more or less dormant (fresh out of the tube), it would likely just freak out due to the high alcohol level and just sink to the bottom and stay there. If you plan to add brettanomyces to part of the batch, that will take care of everything in one shot, but adding some of the 099 to it will accelerate the process. As far as a lack of O2 in the beer, you do not want to aerate it at this point as that can oxidize the alcohols in the beer and lead to rapid staling. Instead, aerate the starter you use to bring the WLP099 to high krausen.

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Old 07-29-2014, 01:36 AM   #3
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Thanks for the reply, i think I will try to get my hands on some WLP099 some time this week.

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Let me know how it turns out. PM me for my address so you can send me some!

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Well I sampled it today while splitting and transferring. I think the 1.025 holds up well to the 10% alcohol and about 60 IBU. I'll sample again in a week to make my final decision.

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