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Old 02-19-2012, 01:53 PM   #1
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Anyone have experience with either of these yeasts? I made a dead man clone with wlp001 and a Blue Moon clone with wlp400. It's been over a week and both are still very active. Both have a nice layer of Carson on top. Fermenting at 64 degrees. Never seen yeast this active for this long. I had to add a blow off tube to wlp001. Is this normal? Thanks

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Old 02-19-2012, 02:09 PM   #2
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Well first off I'd get Carson out of there. Nothing will infect (or drink) your beer faster than a dude name Carson in the carboy.

The rest of it sounds normal.

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Old 02-19-2012, 02:39 PM   #3
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lol, yeah i know miss spell. Looks like i need to raise the temp to 68 according to the forms on White Labs.

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Old 02-19-2012, 04:08 PM   #4
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lol, yeah i know miss spell. Looks like i need to raise the temp to 68 according to the forms on White Labs.
You don't necessarily have to raise temps, it'll just take longer to ferment out. I often ferment 001 at 66F with great results. At 68F, it'll take a 1.060 wort down to 1.010 in 4 days.

Never tried 400...
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Old 02-19-2012, 04:33 PM   #5
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Those are my two favorite yeasts. I usually ferment at about 72 F ambiant temp because I don't have any method of controlling my temps and I live in the south. I usually get my 1.060 beers to about 1.010 in about a week and then if I let them set another week or two they will drop to about 1.008. I usually get between 80-90% attenuation on WLP001 and 80-85% attenuation on WLP400. Those numbers are higher than the ones given by white labs but I have made many batches with them and still get these numbers.

Your fermentation sounds pretty normal, however. Time of fermentation is something that is hard to predict. You can speed up your fermentations by making sure that your wort has proper oxygen levels (check out the Wyeast videos for some great info on that.) and that you have pitched the ideal number of yeast cells (Mr.Malty). That's why a lot of people on here just let there beer set for a really long time in the carboy. Well, that and because many people believe that long aging increases the quality of the beer. You can't go wrong with checking your gravity and bottling after the gravity has remained the same for 3-5 days.

Short Answer: Your beer sounds fine
Also, what blue moon clone recipe did you use?

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Old 02-19-2012, 06:22 PM   #6
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WLP-001 usually ferments pretty fast for me, usually at FG in less than a week. I let it clean up for a couple after and it is good to go. But it is a very active yeast.

Just used WLP-400 for the first time and it is sloooowwww. took off real fast, but it is still chugging along at 2 weeks in, no drop in Krausen and can still see the yeasties swimming (though not nearly as vigorously). A few more points to go and it will be at FG. gonna let this one sit for about 5 weeks total, then bottle. for a few days it smelled real bad (sulfur), but now it smells amazing!

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Old 02-19-2012, 07:47 PM   #7
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Thanks all for the reply's.
This is the one i used for blue moon.
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f71/aust...e-beer-135187/
The difference i did was change the orange peal to .25oz sweet orange and .25oz bitter orange peal.
I did another one with s04 and i think it was well a lot of orange peal. Nino's number 4 and it's on tap now, but I'm no fan of s04. It's not bad just not Blue Moon, to much orange.

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I just pitched 7 vials into a 25 gallon batch of Sierra Nevada Pale Ale clone. At 7.50 each, I hope it makes good beer!

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If you ferment your WL400 too low(Like I did at 63F)you might end up with a clovey hefeweissen instead of a belgian lol

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Old 02-20-2012, 02:06 AM   #10
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I just pitched 7 vials into a 25 gallon batch of Sierra Nevada Pale Ale clone. At 7.50 each, I hope it makes good beer!
Why didn't you use US-05 or make a starter?
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