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Old 04-18-2011, 12:25 PM   #1
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Default WLP001 or Pacman for Hoppy Ale

I am making a huge red ale with a pound of columbus in an 11 galon batch, with 1.070 OG and possibly some honey added to the boil. I am really having a problem deciding on yeast. I love pacman and the beers it produces are fantastic, but now that it is spring my basement is now to warm to keep it at 60 degrees so I ferment around 64 degrees in the ferementer now. I love the way it floculates and ferments nice and clean.

However, I know that WLP001 is great at accentuating hops and can work in an extreme of temperatures. The one and only thing I can't stand abou this yeast, which is also what makes it such an attenuator, is that it stays in suspension forever. The last thing I want to do is use gelatin in this beer because of the hops......

so I am stuck in my decision, I am leaning towards WLP001 and just cold crash the yeast out and then dry hop, but I am still struggling with it.

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Old 04-18-2011, 03:08 PM   #2
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I am leaning towards WLP001 and just cold crash the yeast out and then dry hop, but I am still struggling with it.
I think you answered your own question.
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I think you answered your own question.
Thanks for the validation! Cold crash in primary, rack to kegs and dry hop back at room temp in the kegs with whole cone hops in bags.

WLP001 better not fail me on this one!
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Any results yet?

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Any results yet?

I bucked the trend and used WLP007.

OG = 1.072 FG = 1.009.

2.5 ounces of whole cone columbus dry hopping in each of two 5 gallon kegs right now. 11 ounces of whole cone columbus in the boil and 5 for dry hopping. I think the brew will be nothing short of spectacular.

If you want the recipe I can sure post it.
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I'm really interesting in hearing about how this beer turned out with WLP007 - I'm considering doing a run of Pale Ale/Imperial Stout/Barley Wine with this yeast. That attenuation is crazy - how is the balance of dryness/hops/malt?

Probably have to wait to hear the results, so thanks in advance!

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I'm really interesting in hearing about how this beer turned out with WLP007 - I'm considering doing a run of Pale Ale/Imperial Stout/Barley Wine with this yeast. That attenuation is crazy - how is the balance of dryness/hops/malt?

Probably have to wait to hear the results, so thanks in advance!

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With this beer I did not use a 60 minute bittering additon. I used First Wort hopping and then additions at 30,15,10,5 and Flameout to get all of my bitterness. It says around 100 IBU, but I don't think beersmith calculates FWH hop additions properly.

My samples at kegging time tasted really, really good. Suprisingly after two weeks in primary it was not fiery at all with the %8.5 ABV. It reminded me alot of arrogant bastard. Here is the recipe

12 gallon batch

25# two row
1 # C50
1#C75
1#C120
4 oz Chocolate Malt
1.5 pounds honey at flamout

2 oz columbus at FWH
1 oz columubus at 30
2 oz columbus at 15
2 oz columbus at 10
2 oz columbus at 5
2 oz columbus at FO
5 oz columbus dry hop
Mash at 154
WLP007
ferment at 67
OG = 1.072 FG 1.010 or less.....

I have no doubt that this will be amazing beer
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i was gonna suggest wlp007 based on the recent praise i've been reading about it - just used it in my batch from this weekend and plan on reusing a bit of the cake with my barleywine

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I bucked the trend and used WLP007.
Actually, I was more interested in learning your experience with the WLP001 mentioned in the title. I use a lot of Pacman, but couldn't resist Ed's sale. Don't plan on brewing his recipe, but for the price of the supplies it seemed like a good deal. Had him package everything seperately so I can just use it as I need it. Ordered two of them.

The kit comes with WLP001, so I was interested in how it would compare to Pacman when used in the same recipe. Out of habit, I use mostly Wyeast, so don't no what to expect from the White Labs.
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Take a look at 1272 American Ale II from wyeast. It will also accentuate the hops.

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