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TimTrone · 04-06-2012, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by osagedr

I second this. I'd pitch at 45 and let rise to 48 or 50. Pitching at 65 will ensure a good start to fermentation even if you underpitch, but why not pitch the correct number of cells at the recommended temperature and give your beer the best chance to taste the way it should?

I have used W-34/70 many times and really like it. My practise is to pitch 1.5 million cells per ml per degree Plato (at least two packs) rehydrated as per manufacturer's instructions. I've fermented with this strain as low as 44, not that there was a good reason to do so except being curious about how low it would go. I'm tempted to say it's my favourite dry strain but...I've made some really nice beers with S-23 and S-189 as well.

The S-189 is great too, but each time I've used it, it has been a slow starter. Did anyone else experience that?

brockettbrews · 04-06-2012, 04:28 PM

ok thanks will pitch at 48 then

brockettbrews · 04-06-2012, 04:31 PM

what is the best way to get it down to that temp without a wort chiller??? icebath??

rockfish42 · 04-06-2012, 05:30 PM

Get it as low as possible with your normal chilling method and then put it in a temp controlled fridge/freezer for a couple of hours or overnight. If your sanitation is good you'll be fine pitching the next day even.

brockettbrews · 04-06-2012, 05:34 PM

that is what i did with my other all grain. thanks I have learned not to rush things lol

**osagedr** · 04-07-2012, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TimTrone

The S-189 is great too, but each time I've used it, it has been a slow starter. Did anyone else experience that?

My S-189 was slow out of the package, but when I split the yeast cake and split it into two batches, it took off very quickly. It's not a huge fan of cold temps as I recall--similar to S-23 in that regard.

**bwarbiany** · 04-07-2012, 04:15 PM

I did an O'fest with that yeast last year. 10 gallons, used 4 packs, pitched at 43, let rise to 49, D'rest for 2 days and crash cooled to ~33 for 5 weeks.

Came out very nice and clean. Several of my homebrew club friends came to that O'fest party and were all very impressed with the beer (my first, and to date only, lager).

I was happy with it and would gladly use it again.

brockettbrews · 04-07-2012, 04:19 PM

i actually have an O'fest fermating right now i used the O'fest slap pack. It is at 48 right now. doing that for 14 days then puttin it into a secondary and dropping down to 34 and then waiting to sept bottling it.

brockettbrews · 04-07-2012, 04:20 PM

after the lagering should i add more yeast before i bottle????

TimTrone · 04-07-2012, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by brockettbrews

after the lagering should i add more yeast before i bottle????

You'll get mixed answers, but if it's been lagering a month or less it's fine to bottle without adding more yeast.