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Old 12-20-2013, 12:21 PM   #11
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+1 on all the above.

The primary fermentation could well be done in 3 days. That doesn't mean the beer is done. It's still conditioning and doing extensive clean-up after the hard work. Let it sit for at least another 2 weeks. Porters need some aging anyway, so it's better to leave it on the yeast for now.

You could pull a hydro sample to set your mind at ease, but use utter care with sanitation. It should be close to FG. What yeast did you use?

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Old 12-20-2013, 04:02 PM   #12
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You should aerate (wasn't oxygenate in this case) the wort, instead of just the yeast starter. Unless you are aerating or oxygenating the starter wort when you pitch the yeast into it. More benefit in the batch rather than the starter.
I was going back and forth on that. I read some say do the yeast others say the wort. I am new to this so figured i would try it both ways and see. I am brewing again today maybe so i will try to oxygenate the wort this time.

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I dont think it would be out of the question to have at least dropped near its terminal gravity in a day and a half. Especially if the yeast starter was healthy and you kept your temps stable. Hopefully there was enough dissolved oxygen to get the job done.
well, i would think there should be enough, i usually dont oxygenate anything and dont have a starter, just pitch the vial and go. Figured the starter should at least do something i am hoping. lol

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What was your logic in oxygenating dormant yeast? After 26 hours in the starter, all growth/replication had likely already occurred.
again, i dunno. Will be trying it another way next time.

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+1 on all the above.

The primary fermentation could well be done in 3 days. That doesn't mean the beer is done. It's still conditioning and doing extensive clean-up after the hard work. Let it sit for at least another 2 weeks. Porters need some aging anyway, so it's better to leave it on the yeast for now.

You could pull a hydro sample to set your mind at ease, but use utter care with sanitation. It should be close to FG. What yeast did you use?
I went with WLP001 California ale. I almost opted for the English Ale, but wanted a little more attenuation and less residual sweetness left over. We will see how it works out lol.

So that brings up another question for me. Is there a standard that people usually leave brew in primary / secondary? What is the purpose of an extended primary or secondary? I have seen times range anywhere from 1 week in each to 30 days in each and just trying to figure out when it is appropriate or needed.

Thanks for all the advice guys!!! I really appreciate all the input!
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Most experienced brewers on here seem to think that the only reason to go to a secondary is if you're going to rack your beer onto something or mix something in. Leaving the beer on the yeast for a week or so after primary fermentation is complete allows the yeast to clean up after itself and reduce the chances of off flavors from the yeast themselves.

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2 to 4 weeks on standard gravity ales up to about 1.060. After that you'll want a couple more weeks. 4 to 6 unless you get to your terminal gravity sooner. But gravity readings will be the only way to know for sure.

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again, i dunno. Will be trying it another way next time.
The best advice you can be given as a new brewer is to read some basic texts like "How to Brew" and "Yeast", which will give you a better idea of what is actually happening when you make beer. Just trying things willy-nilly (like oxygenating dormant yeast) just wastes your time and money.

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The best advice you can be given as a new brewer is to read some basic texts like "How to Brew" and "Yeast", which will give you a better idea of what is actually happening when you make beer. Just trying things willy-nilly (like oxygenating dormant yeast) just wastes your time and money.

Good luck.
Well it was hardly willy nilly, but i definitely get it. there were several posts on here and other forums that mentioned doing that so its not like i just decided it wold be a good idea! lol. actually just ordered a couple books, but was going through the how to brew book online. the yeast one is the one i am most interested in at the moment.
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