New Giveaway - Wort Monster Conical Fermenter!

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Fermentation & Yeast > Starter not starting?




Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-06-2012, 03:47 AM   #1
jefro
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Redwood Country, California
Posts: 51
Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts
Likes Given: 21

Default Starter not starting?

I made my first starter about 24 hrs ago, 1/2 gallon at about 1.060 in a 1 gallong jug with Trappist yeast (WPL500, 1 vial). I pitched the yeast at exactly the same temp as the water and I was totally OCD with sanitation. However, *nothing* appears to be happening, no krausen, no bubbles, nothing. It is in the house at about 68degF, where I intend to start the final beer.

I haven't checked gravity yet to see if it is different. There does appear to be a slight layer at the bottom forming.

I know all the advice about not giving up etc. but don't know what to expect with this yeast or the process. Is it just taking a while, or should I have seen some action by now? I am hoping to use it to brew my first Tripel on Sunday or Monday.

thanks



__________________
jefro is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-06-2012, 03:57 AM   #2
ChessRockwell
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Canton, ME
Posts: 558
Liked 29 Times on 26 Posts
Likes Given: 23

Default

I see this post a lot with WLP500. Give it more time, unless the vial you used was super expired you should be fine. Even if it was, give it more time and you're probably still fine.

1.060 is a little high for a starter, might take it a bit longer than the recommended 1.040.



__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by petey_c View Post
"Lets say your local bar pours an American pint where 15% of the beer is missing due to headspace. Every 6.66 beers you drink you 'll have been missing 1 entire beer". 6.66 beers!. I wonder who's really responsible for the missing beers... I don't know, maybe Satan??!
ChessRockwell is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-06-2012, 03:59 AM   #3
BBL_Brewer
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
BBL_Brewer's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Kokomo, IN
Posts: 3,588
Liked 376 Times on 266 Posts
Likes Given: 250

Default

Sometimes starters can ferm out pretty quick without you actually observing any activity. Can you post a picture?

__________________
Slots Down Brewery
Stick with the plan....not the sparge.


Never Ending Liquid Yeast - How to Farm Yeast and Freeze it.

BBL_Brewer is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-06-2012, 04:22 AM   #4
ChessRockwell
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Canton, ME
Posts: 558
Liked 29 Times on 26 Posts
Likes Given: 23

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BBL_Brewer View Post
Sometimes starters can ferm out pretty quick without you actually observing any activity. Can you post a picture?
Good point, I forgot to mention that!
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by petey_c View Post
"Lets say your local bar pours an American pint where 15% of the beer is missing due to headspace. Every 6.66 beers you drink you 'll have been missing 1 entire beer". 6.66 beers!. I wonder who's really responsible for the missing beers... I don't know, maybe Satan??!
ChessRockwell is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-07-2012, 05:17 AM   #5
jefro
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Redwood Country, California
Posts: 51
Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts
Likes Given: 21

Default

was going to post a pic, but it just started bubbling! 48 hrs later...

__________________
jefro is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-07-2012, 02:52 PM   #6
SpeedYellow
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 914
Liked 71 Times on 60 Posts
Likes Given: 11

Default

Did you aerate before pitching? I've found that makes a difference.

__________________
SpeedYellow is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-07-2012, 07:45 PM   #7
jefro
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Redwood Country, California
Posts: 51
Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts
Likes Given: 21

Default

...and now moving & grooving, though no krausen. I'm happy now thanks for the help

__________________
jefro is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-07-2012, 07:59 PM   #8
landshark
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
 
landshark's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: lone jack, Missouri
Posts: 1,072
Liked 93 Times on 78 Posts
Likes Given: 23

Default

Patience. Sounds like it's all better now. I did a starter earlier this week took around 48 hours before I saw any action.

__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by TxBrew View Post
If you want to know what weird is, ask yourself "Is this weird?" and if you just asked yourself that question it is.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughing_Gnome_Invisible View Post
OK, So I searched "Betty White nude" ...........At the top of the results, instead of 'Did you mean......" it asked "Are you f#cking serious?....."
landshark is online now
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-07-2012, 10:24 PM   #9
jefro
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Redwood Country, California
Posts: 51
Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts
Likes Given: 21

Default

landshark that was my experience precisely - mine took almost exactly 48 hrs.

I started it on Thursday eve and set it on the kitchen counter. Saturday eve I was sitting in the kitchen finishing up a homebrew and reading John Palmer's book again, and heard a little noise behind me. We have had way too many mice this year, so I thought it was a mouse trying to get into one of the no-kill traps we leave lying around (safer for our useless cats). This one is behind a curtain, so I listened carefully... crept around the table... snuck up on it... and then pounced!

Of course it was empty. The noise continued. On investigation it was bubbles coming through the lock on my starter! So I broke open another homebrew and ceased to worry.

Now waiting for many yeasties to accumulate - will brew hopefully tomorrow or possibly Wednesday (busy on Tues).

__________________
jefro is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-09-2012, 01:08 AM   #10
jefro
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Redwood Country, California
Posts: 51
Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts
Likes Given: 21

Default

I never got a krausen, just some interesting little bubble islands roaming around on the surface evidencing much activity within, but even that has slowed down a bit. It has mostly been in the 66-68 range and got fairly cold last night, so it is probably done doing whatever it will do. I'm going to cold-crash for a few days in the fridge and hope to brew my trippel Friday or Saturday after warming & decanting. I may order another vial of it just in case what I have fails to take off, but I feel pretty confident & should get about a cup of slurry, or at least I hope so.

It has been a really interesting process so far!



__________________
jefro is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply


Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Yeast starter not starting storytyme Fermentation & Yeast 9 09-28-2012 04:32 AM
starter not ... starting vadem Fermentation & Yeast 10 08-06-2012 05:08 PM
Starter not starting TheBroonery Fermentation & Yeast 11 01-07-2012 12:49 PM
Lager Starter not Starting? rtrevino Fermentation & Yeast 4 08-11-2011 05:11 PM
starter not starting afalconc Fermentation & Yeast 2 07-09-2011 05:17 PM