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Old 05-29-2010, 08:56 PM   #1
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Default Starter or no starter??? Quick response needed.

Ok. So I got two 11g packets of Danstar Munich for a 10g extract batch of Bavarian Hefeweizen.

I looked on Danstar's site and they made no real mention of a starter. Do I need to make one or not?

Any thoughts?

They gave a list of procedures to revive the yeast. Should I follow there recommendations or wing it with a starter?


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Old 05-29-2010, 08:58 PM   #2
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I never make starters with dry yeast.

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You don't need to ever make a starter with dry yeast. that's why they didn't mention it on the danstar site.

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Thank you both so much.

Double checked Danstar and they recommend pitching 1 gram per liter of their yeast.

I have 22g.

That's around 6 gallons (rounded conversion)

I'm making 10 gallons. Every "Extract Recipe Kit" that I know of comes with ONE package of 11g yeast per 5 gal kit. I assumed that 2 packages was suffiecient for a 10 gallon batch. So... are the kits shorting people according to Danstar recommendations? Or am I freaking out?


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While a starter is seldom used with dry yeast, doing one in your case would help relieve your concerns.

Plus it couldn’t hurt. You’ve got a few hours so I say why not.

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You’ve got a few hours so I say why not.
You sure you're not thinking about re-hydrating? A starter takes a couple days.
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While a starter is seldom used with dry yeast, doing one in your case would help relieve your concerns.

Plus it couldn’t hurt. You’ve got a few hours so I say why not.
There's really no-reason to make a starter for dry yeast, "proofing," yes, but a wort starter, no. Besides the OP has 2 packets for his 10 gallon batch, that's MORE than enough yeast to do the job. In fact I would say that's optimal.
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Thanks again guys. You're responses are as good as gospel to me.

Revvy,

Even though Danstar says 1g/liter, two packs for 10 gs is (in your experience) optimal?

Can you elaborate?


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I misread what you originally posted, I thought that each packet was good for a 6 gallon batch, hence two packets would be great to over pitch a 10 gallon batch. But I went back and repread it.

But most folks pitch 1 pack of dry yeast for a 5 gallon batch, so it will be ok with the two you have for a 10....

But listen, many folks have made great beer even though they pitch less yeast than they need. If you have two packs, use them, and let the yeast re-produce enough to suit their needs. That's the first thing they will do, have an orgy amongst your wort and copulate, and make more babies.

You'll be fine. It's a hefe, so it's not like you are making a 10 gallon utopia clone with a starting grav of 1.125 or something like that. Your two packs will handle it just fine.

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Thank you sir. Sanitizing starts in a couple hours. Wish me luck.

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