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01-29-2010, 06:33 PM
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The Raging B*tch and El Diablo
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After trying the Flying Dog Raging B*tch, I've decided to try and come up with a clone or at least a beer that is similar. I was browsing the flying dog brewery site, and they listed El Diablo, as the yeast used for this beer. I did a quick google search, and couldn't find anything.
Does anyone know anything about El Diablo, or the Raging B*tch? It is an awesome beer, and if you haven't tried it yet, you need to.
http://www.flyingdogales.com/Beer-Anniversary.aspx
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01-29-2010, 09:37 PM
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The only thing I could find about it is that it is a "Belgian Yeast" or "A yeast that gives a belgian flavor".
I do hope someone chimes in with a yeast suggestion. Maybe someone out there that knows how some belgians taste AND how the raging b*tch tastes.
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02-10-2010, 03:06 PM
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I have decided on the yeast that I'm going to use for my Belgian, Raging Bitch inspired IPA. And the winner is Wyeast 3522. Stone used it in there '09 Vertical Epic, a Belgian Porter. http://www.stonebrew.com/epic/Wc6297b16717fd.htm
Any thoughts or opinions about a good yeast choice would be appreciated. Has anyone else on here tried the raging bitch yet?
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On Deck: Black EyePA round 2, Strawberry Blonde, Dead Guy-ish Ale
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02-28-2010, 11:31 PM
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fyi... they give a brief rundown of the recipe in this video ~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU5fARCiD2o
to sum it up briefly:
1. Malt bill similar to their Snake Dog IPA
2. Warrior hops for bittering addition
3. Finish with Columbus and Amarillo hops
3. Dry hopped with Amarillo, as well
4. "Belgian white beer yeast" el Diablo
keep us updated. would love to hear how your clone turns out. cheers!
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03-01-2010, 06:51 AM
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does anyone know what yeast flying dog uses for the woody creek wit, or have a good guess... it sounds like they probably use a similar yeast? I was thinking that the belgian ardennes from wyeast might come close.
I am fermenting a beer that included the specialty malts they list on the flyingdogales.com for the raging bitch, but the bittering hops, and flavoring hops were different, because of what I have on hand. I also went with a yeast that is much different then what I think they are using in this beer, because it was available. I am going to try it again with the hops listed, and with the belgian ardennes from wyeast and a similar malt bill.
The beer that is fermenting does taste awesome, but it is a lot different then the raging bitch.
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2ndary: Belgian Black EyePA
Bottled: Anchor Porter Clone, Pale Ale, Red Ale, Pumpking Barley Wine, Apfelwein, Black EyePA, Kolsch
On Deck: Black EyePA round 2, Strawberry Blonde, Dead Guy-ish Ale
Last edited by kansastransplantvictim; 03-01-2010 at 06:58 AM.
Reason: edit
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03-01-2010, 12:42 PM
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Not a white beer yeast but if I were using Duvel yeast and couldn't come out and say that for trademark reasons but wanted to hint at it, I might say el diablo.
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03-07-2010, 02:12 AM
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I love this damn beer. It is absolutely superb. I tried Stone's Belgian IPA and it does not compare to this one. Stone's tasted too medicinal. I would be interested in how your beer turns out.
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03-30-2010, 03:25 AM
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update: I brewed 10 gallons of a black-belgian ipa on 2/13/10, its been in primary since then. Today I transferred to secondary and added the 1st round of dry hops. I used the Whie labs trappist yeast because it was readily available. There was a strong 'belgian' kind of taste to the sample, and strong bitterness. It came in at 8.5% abv.
This beer is nothing close to the raging bitch, but the raging bitch was good inspiration. I'm thrilled with what I have so far.
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2ndary: Belgian Black EyePA
Bottled: Anchor Porter Clone, Pale Ale, Red Ale, Pumpking Barley Wine, Apfelwein, Black EyePA, Kolsch
On Deck: Black EyePA round 2, Strawberry Blonde, Dead Guy-ish Ale
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03-30-2010, 09:11 PM
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Maybe I had a bad bottle or something strange, but I coud not get past the smell. Mine had a very, very strong sulphur smell that kept me from getting very far into it. I really want to like it cause I like a lot of their brews and they're local to me, but this thing reaked of WL400 that was not fermented at the proper temps. Major rotten egg smell.
I plan on trying this brew again and buying from a different store, but did anyone else have this experince? I really hope it was a bad bottle.
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03-30-2010, 11:03 PM
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I personally did not think this was anything special. The Belgian characteristics were to overpowered by the hops so I could only detect a very slight fruitiness.
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