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Old 11-08-2011, 03:28 AM   #11
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For around 12-13 bucks you can get a bottle washer that attaches to your faucet for cleaning out the insides. I tend to use this before I go to the dishwasher to blast anything out of there. Then run the cycle.


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Most batches sit in the fermenter for 3-6 weeks. The bottles are anywhere from 4 weeks to 3 months old. The problem seems to get worse with time (post-bottling).
Personally I would look to your bottling equipment instead of the actual bottles. Take a look at empty bottles you have cleaned but not refilled. How dirty are they? If they are very dirty your bottles might be the problem or just part of the problem.

Bottling equipment is easily a cause of infections. You have all the soft plastic, the spigot and autosiphon (if you're using one) that are potential breeding grounds for bacteria and wild yeast. Just a few cells in the bottle will start a slow growth process that over time will give you tremendous amounts of carbonation. Starting from a few cells will take a while before fermentation gets going and the fewer cells that go in the longer it takes, so you can get some variation in amount of over-carbonation. It's also possible that as the beer goes through the equipment the bacteria/wild yeast are going in the bottles until the beer washes the majority of it out and then you're getting cleaner bottles.

I would encourage a long (several days) soak of all your racking and bottling equipment in oxyclean/PBW, rinse, then soak in a strong sanitizer solution.
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It doesn't seem to affect every single bottle, and some of them are less affected than others. Although it's hard to tell since it gets worse with time, and it takes me several weeks to drink and entire batch.

I haven't had any bottle bombs, but I have no way of measuring what the final pressure is. Did your bottles show the weird foam, or excessive champagne-live bubbles?
One thing that I did notice was a ring of stuff like a mini krausen stuck to the top of the bottle. Just a tiny but, but I've never had that before. It was definitely like champagne bubbles. Opening the bottle, it would gush out and I'd pour a full glass of foam. Even after a 22oz bottle was 1/3 full, foam would still pour out of the top. They did seem to be at different stages of infection until they had been in bottles for about a month.

I know it wasn't from my bottles though. They all soaked in oxyclean for a few hours before a rinse and soak in starsan.


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