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midlantic 10-09-2012 02:08 AM

New Danstar Belle Saison Dry Yeast?
 
Anyone heard anything about a new Danstar "Belle Saison" dry yeast?

http://www.ldcarlson.com/Sellsheets/P9526.pdf

http://www.danstaryeast.com/products/belle-saison-yeast

The LDCarlson page says "Coming Fall 2012" but I haven't seen a sign that it's for sale yet.

Any possibility that this is a dry version of an existing liquid yeast? Or possibly a different name for something sold out outside of the US but not available in the States? Or maybe the same as something like T58? Or is something completely brand new? Or even something long on the market that I just haven't figured out?

badlee 10-09-2012 11:06 AM

Never heard of it, but sounds like it could be a life saver for the thailand brewing scene

beergolf 10-09-2012 02:45 PM

Sounds interesting. I will keep an eye out for it and probably give it a try when I can get my hands on some.

Ramitt 10-09-2012 02:58 PM

excellent, the more dry yeast selection, the better.

Jaysus 10-09-2012 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beergolf (Post 4482832)
Sounds interesting. I will keep an eye out for it and probably give it a try when I can get my hands on some.

me either, I definitely want to give it a shot though.

Montanaandy 10-09-2012 07:35 PM

Smart marketing. IIPA, Saison, & Cask beer are very popular as of late and now there is a dry yeast alternative.

sweetcell 10-10-2012 05:17 PM

sounds like something i'd want to have on hand at all times. i like to keep an extra pack of dry yeast in the fridge in case of emergencies. if this is a true saison yeast it'll be perfect for pitching into a brew that stalled and that i've heated up in hopes of getting it to finish. the saison yeast should get to work quite comfortably without producing too many undesirable off-flavors b/c of the heat.

Whattawort 10-10-2012 05:26 PM

I've all but abandoned liquid yeast lately. The convenience of dry yeast (and price) is a lot more desirable to me. I don't have to use a starter and I'm not really looking for a specific profile most of the time, so I'm all for more dry varieties. So far I've found that I can make some pretty darn tasty beers with Notty, US-05, S-04, S-33, and T-58. T-58 is my least favorite though. Tends to be a little peppery for most of the styles I like to make. I'm looking forward to a saison strain.

PaulD428 12-11-2012 03:07 PM

Northern Brewer just put this on sale today:

http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/brewing/brewing-ingredients/beer-yeast/danstar-belle-saison-yeast.html

A little pricier than the other dried options out there. Also suggests 2 packets/5 gallon batch. Pro is definitely the fact that it could be attenuated fully within 72 hours, though. Not to mention not having to deal with a starter.

sweetcell 12-11-2012 03:22 PM

the proposed need for 2 packs is a little disappointing, especially considering the increased price.

i've just noticed that Danstar recommends the same dosing amount for all their ale yeasts - 2 packs per 5 gallons. according to their fact sheet, each pack contains 5x10^9 cells. unless my math skillz have gone completely out the window, that's 500 million cells (500,000,000). so 2 packs would be pitching 1 billion cells - which is what the total population of cells in a yeast cake is after fermentation. so, in other words, when pitching dry yeast we are not assuming any population growth? i guess that would explain why aeration isn't needed - O2 is required for reproduction, and pitching that high means reproduction isn't required.

since so many flavors come from the growth phase, should we pitch less than the suggested amount, which will cause the yeast to grow?

thoughts?


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