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DansBrew · 02-10-2010, 07:03 PM

I'm axing the issue of whether or not secondary is for me or not. I am doing a Dubbel. Its been in primary for 1 month. I figure I would bulk age this bad boy to help all the flavors evenly meddle. I buy a nice secondary, stopper and airlock. I rack into the secondary with the star san snake working up my leg... I put the stopper in, slide in the airlock, and watch the stopper slowly rise out, and sit wobbly on top of the carboy. It sank in a bit, but did not Feel air tight, by my own wobble check. I devised a solution on a whim, I pulled 2 strips of duct tape, pushed the stopper all the way in, and taped across the top of the stopper. It seems to be holding, I sure hope this little 2 minutes of open top, or semi open top doesn't ruin my batch. I wouldnt normally care if my fermenter lid was off too long, since there is that nice bed of CO2 ontop, but I am a little nervous now. I'll be bottling in a month or so, so I guess around april I'll have an idea. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, and will HAHB, and probably forget I even had this issue when the time for bottling comes. Just venting...

***Yooper*** · 02-10-2010, 07:05 PM

I know how you feel. I've pushed too hard on the stoppers, and PLOP! into the carboy they went.

You can use a clean papertowel and dry the neck of the carboy inside, and dry off the stopper and then it'll stay just fine. It only slides like that when it's slippery wet with star-san.

EvilGnome6 · 02-10-2010, 07:09 PM

Try one of the bungs rather than a stopper. They fit snugly, even when wet.

DansBrew · 02-10-2010, 07:19 PM

Thanks for the tip, yooper... the picture gnome attached is the syle I have... Should I remove tape and dry, or let it sit wet? Im only concerned if somehow the star san would get funky, like moldy or mildewy... I'm assuming not since its star san?

**HoppyDaze** · 02-10-2010, 07:19 PM

^^^ you said "bung"

shortyjacobs · 02-10-2010, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DansBrew

I rack into the secondary with the star san snake working up my leg.

This right here is your problem. Do not stand in the secondary.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvilGnome6

Try one of the bungs rather than a stopper. They fit snugly, even when wet.

Attachment 14629

I have the opposite problem. I have one carboy that must have a slightly smaller neck than others. The bung you show there will NOT stay firmly in the carboy, but a solid stopper does...

Reddheadedstepchild · 02-10-2010, 07:36 PM

It would take along time for starsan to get funky. A lot longer than the 1 mounth until bottleing your waiting.

MachineShopBrewing · 02-10-2010, 10:45 PM

carboy caps will avoid the problem of the stopper moving around. I had the same problem until I went to carboy caps.

**Hammy71** · 02-10-2010, 11:06 PM

Yooper is dead on. Star san is slippery. That's one of the reasons I always use a blow off for my primary. Too many times the airlock slipped out of the primary. So...it's not a secondary problem...but a stopper one.

HSM · 02-11-2010, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammy71

Yooper is dead on. Star san is slippery. That's one of the reasons I always use a blow off for my primary. Too many times the airlock slipped out of the primary. So...it's not a secondary problem...but a stopper one.

I don't think the stopper was broken. It's a Star San problem. I use it, but on stoppers, racking canes, hoses, it's just too slippery. Rinsing never hurt.