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12-26-2012, 03:44 PM
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My Fermentation ALWAYS stops early. HELP!!
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I must be doing something basically wrong because my fermentation ALWAYS stop early. Here's are examples from a few recent brews:
Barley wine:
OG (target/actual): 1.101 / 1.105
FG (target/actual): 1.022 / 1.050
Blonde Ale:
OG (target/actual): 1.046 / 1.046
FG (target/actual): 1.009 / 1.023
Every single beer I brew makes if about half way before stopping. I've been assuming it's something in my process but I can't figure out what it could be. Here's what I'm doing:
- All grain brewing
- I use BeerSmith 2 to figure out volumes and estimated gravitys. I've been hitting dead on target for the OG so I think I got that part right.
- I use iodine to confirm the mash is complete
- I've calibrated all my thermometers to a digital reference for accuracy.
- I do a starter and pitch at the rate recommended by Beer Smith.
- I use yeast nutrient and oxygen before I pitch.
- I measure the gravity with a refractometer.
- I ferment in a converted chest freezer with a thermostat I modified myself that maintains the temperature of the beer within 3 degrees F of the set point of 68F (for ales). I even track the temperature on a strip chart updated every minute to confirm. (http://beer.essercustom.com)
- I consider the fermentation stopped when the reading doesn't change for 2 weeks. (measured weekly).
Any help would be great. I've been at this problem for months trying to nail down what I'm doing wrong.
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12-26-2012, 04:03 PM
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panem et circenses
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[*]I measure the gravity with a refractometer.
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What is your FG with a hydrometer?
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12-26-2012, 04:05 PM
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what are the starting and finishing mash temps? Could you be too hot to start with?
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12-26-2012, 04:09 PM
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I have read recently, and apparently I have one, that there are refractometers out there that the brix scale and the SG scale do not match.
Check the scale by converting the brix to sg and visa versa. Also check it with a hydrometer.
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12-26-2012, 04:13 PM
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Bensiff,
I haven't been using a hydrometer since I got a refractometer. However, when I first got it I would cross check the two for accuracy and found they always agreed.
Badbrew,
I thought that might be a problem so I've been keeping the temps low (150 F -154 F) to be safe and stirring contently until it gets to temp to reduce hot spots. I mash out at 173 F.
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12-26-2012, 04:16 PM
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Suspect.
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Originally Posted by Smokingman
Bensiff,
I haven't been using a hydrometer since I got a refractometer. However, when I first got it I would cross check the two for accuracy and found they always agreed.
Badbrew,
I thought that might be a problem so I've been keeping the temps low (150 F -154 F) to be safe and stirring contently until it gets to temp to reduce hot spots. I mash out at 173 F.
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If you're using your refractometer for FG, there is no way your reading will be accurate without the use of a conversion algorithm-- I prefer this one: http://seanterrill.com/2012/01/06/refractometer-calculator/
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12-26-2012, 04:17 PM
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Is it beer:30 yet?
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Are u converting ur refractometer reading for post fermentation?
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12-26-2012, 04:18 PM
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Your refracto is the issue. Go test with a hydrometer asap. 
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12-26-2012, 04:19 PM
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Bensiff,
I haven't been using a hydrometer since I got a refractometer. However, when I first got it I would cross check the two for accuracy and found they always agreed.
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refracto on brew day and never again. 
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12-26-2012, 04:34 PM
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Bensiff,
I haven't been using a hydrometer since I got a refractometer. However, when I first got it I would cross check the two for accuracy and found they always agreed.
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From what you said, you are doing everything correctly, there is really no reason for your fermentation to not go to completion so that is driving me to think first that you have a measurement error somewhere and refractometer is a good place to look as they are known to be pretty wonky in the presence of alcohol even with the conversion calculation. You are hitting your gravity so your grain scale is accurate and you said you calibrated your thermometers. However, if that is not it, some other thoughts are checking the age of the yeast and if not the age, the conditions they are being stored. What does your pH look like?
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