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Old 02-18-2012, 01:48 PM   #1
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Default Mr Malty Vs Beersmith 2.0 Yeast Starter

I am planning on brewing tomorrow and need to make a starter for an 11 gal batch. I am trying to figure out how big of a starter I need and getting two totally different answer from Mr Malty and BS 2.0.

Wyeast 3711 Produced 1\30\12 for 11 Gallon Batch

Mr Malty Says:
458 Billion Need
2 Packs of Yeast
2.5L Starter

Beersmith 2.0 Says
417 Billion Needed
1 pack of Yeast
1.1L Starter

Not sure what I should be following here. Any advice?

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Old 02-18-2012, 02:51 PM   #2
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Haven't tried bs 2.0 yeast feature yet. Does bs ask for yeast date? What is the OG? Also what method are you keeping suspension?

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1.1L starter seems pretty small for an 11 gal batch. I usually use a 1L starter for a 5 gal batch.
Whats your OG?

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stir plate/ no stir plate?

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Old 02-18-2012, 04:56 PM   #5
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Yes, BS 2.0 asks for the yeast date
1.060 is the OG
Stir Plate

I went back to make sure I have everything the same in both places. Maybe I am just slow.

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Old 02-18-2012, 04:58 PM   #6
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Do they both show the same viability %?

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Here is a screen shot of the BS 2.0. The beer is the "How Rye Am I Saison" from HBT

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weirdboy - I just went back and checked Mr Malty and it says 83% viability. Obviously that is the difference, but why such a big discrepancy???

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That is based on the production date. Either your smack pack doesn't say 1/30/2012 on it, or the date you put into in Mr Malty is wrong.


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OK, I just tried it in my copy of Beersmith 2, and it shows a viability of 88% with that package date on Wyeast. So something is messed up in your calculation there...maybe you need to update to the latest version? There have been a plethora of bugs found & fixed...

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Smack packs both say 1/30/12 and date is correct in both. I have version 2.057 and it says it is the latest when I check it. It is Wyeast 3711

All of this aside would you do a 2L starter with 1 or 2 packs of yeast?

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