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Old 02-23-2010, 04:50 PM   #1
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This has been discussed a bit before, but I was hoping to get more information about fermentation and lagering temperatures when using nottingham to make a lager.

I realize using an ale yeast to make a lager is not the best way to do it, but I'm trying to make use of what's available to me, and it's a bit of a pain to order things to middle-of-nowhere Canada where I live.

So my question is what temperatures are ideal for the fermentation and lagering phases using nottingham (which is supposed to be active between 57-70F)? Do I have to stay within this active range for both phases, or can I drop into the 40-50F range like one would usually do for lagering? Thanks!

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You can make a very lager-like ale with nottingham by fermenting in the high 50s. It will work in the low-mid 50s, too, but it may take a while to finish out. Rousing it (swirling the fermenter) helps.

If you are going to be sitting in the 40-50°F range, I would go with a lager yeast...they make some pretty good dry lager yeasts you could order a bunch of to stock up on. You can ferment most lager yeasts at up to 55°F without a problem.

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ale yeast do not work at lager temps. if you use them at those temps fermentation will go into slow-mow if not stop entirely.

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i don't think you'll have any issues with lagering it. i know there are some theories that yeast are still "working" during the lagering phase, but when I've lagered, i usually just put it in my fridge at < 40 deg and let it go instead of dropping the temp down a few degrees per day like suggested. works fine and i'm sure notty wouldn't do anything weird if you did the same with it. i'm about to attempt a pseudo lager with notty... once i can get some decent weather to brew in!

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much thanks to all three of you

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ale yeast do not work at lager temps. if you use them at those temps fermentation will go into slow-mow if not stop entirely.
There are many ale yeasts that will flocculate completely or have much trouble working in the 50s. Nottingham is one of the few exceptions. It may go slow, but again...that's where I think rousing the yeast is essential.

moses1...Look up the style for "Cream Ale" if you'd like to make a lager-like ale...those recipes can help (along with the notty) make a very clean beer.
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The conditioning temperature once the fermentation is done isn't as critical. My beers condition anywhere from 40F to 65F depending on the time of year. It just takes longer at low temperatures.

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nottingham yeast is my favorite yeast and I have lots of experience with it. I don't think you will gain anything from a neutrality standpoint by using this yeast at lager temperatures. If you ferment nottingham at a steady 60 degrees you are going to get about a clean a profile as you can with an ale yeast. I personally have found 64 degrees to be the absolute sweet spot for nottingham, it's clean, it floccs out and it attenuates like crazy.

Get a good kolsch recipe and use nottingham yeast.....mmmmmmm

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There are many ale yeasts that will flocculate completely or have much trouble working in the 50s. Nottingham is one of the few exceptions.
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thanks for all the insighful answers.. you've answered my question and more so

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