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Old 06-16-2011, 03:57 PM   #1
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Default Imperial Stout pitched on Irish Stout yeast cake

Sound like a good idea? Or just pitch 2 packets S04?

Dry Irish Stout extract kit w/ speciality grains.
Safale S-04 yeast
OG 1042
primary for 3 weeks...then pitch on yeast cake

Imperial Stout extract w/ speciality grains.
OG 1086

Thanks for any suggestions!

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Old 06-16-2011, 07:18 PM   #2
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The yeast cake police are going to tell you no. But, that's how I do my RIS (by making a smaller beer than dumping the RIS on top). Either way should be fine though.

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Old 06-16-2011, 10:24 PM   #3
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A 1086 onto a 1042 cake isn't bad - overpitched for sure, but not by a lot.

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Sounds great. Aerate the shiz out of it, don't skimp on the nutrient addition, and for GOD'S sake, keep the carboy cool during fermentation to keep the higher alcohols at bay and the esters reasonable. Good luck!

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Thanks guys! I thought it might be overpitched a little, but better than not enough. It's hot here in Florida, but I have a swamp cooler setup that keeps it between 65-70. Aeration technigue has been pouring back and forth several times between fermenter and boil pot. Ferment in 6.5 gallon plastic bucket and don't have a blowoff. Thought I would just leave the lid loose. Sound OK?

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If you have a 3 piece airlock and the right sized tubing, then you have a blowoff. Just take the extra 2 pieces off and attach the tubing. It's worked for me in a pinch.

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I'm getting ready to brew a RIS that will have an OG of 1120 in theory and am planning on just using the Irish Ale (Wyeast 1084) yeast cake from a cream stout that's just about ready. The last time I used an entire yeast cake was when I brewed two batches of Patersbier back to back which was probably not the best idea as I wasn't prepared for how hot it got or the massive blowoff. Dumping 5 gallons of 1.050 wort onto an entire cake of 3787 was a disaster waiting to happen and a good lesson as well.

This time should go better as I have a swamp cooler set up and I'm going to ferment in an 8 gallon bucket.

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Old 06-17-2011, 07:14 AM   #8
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Thanks guys! I thought it might be overpitched a little, but better than not enough. It's hot here in Florida, but I have a swamp cooler setup that keeps it between 65-70. Aeration technigue has been pouring back and forth several times between fermenter and boil pot. Ferment in 6.5 gallon plastic bucket and don't have a blowoff. Thought I would just leave the lid loose. Sound OK?
I'm sure you can rig up a blowoff as the above post describes. A loose lid will suffice too. If I were you, I'd keep the ambient between 55 and 60*F for the first 5 days of fermentation. The batch is going to go nuts. Easily 10 degrees hotter than the room the beer sits in. I'd spend $8 on one of those rope-handled 20 gallon utility buckets you can get at most mega-marts these days. Keeping the bucket surrounded by water will suck up heat a lot better than just the cooled air of the swamp-cooler room. Frozen bottles of water (a lot of them, maybe two sets of 5 or 10 bottles (10-20 total) to rotate between the water bath and the freezer) will keep the water bath around 60 while the beer is rocking during those first days of fermentation. If you can keep things under control for the first 5-7 days, you'll be rewarded with much smoother flavor in your high gravity brews. After the explosive exponential yeast phase, you can leave your bucket at normal room temps without harming the beer. My thoughts, anyway.
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Why not just wash the yeast? It's an easy process and doesn't take that long. That way you'll get the old trub out and be pitching just yeast. Otherwise, I'd think you would have a ton of trub at the bottom after the second brew finishes. Either way save the S-04 for backup.

The lose lid will generally be fine from a sanitation standpoint but be sure to have the mop ready, especially if you are going to pitch on the yeast cake.

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I just reused a yeast cake for the first time last week... I was cloning a bush de noel for my xmas beer. I have never witnessed such a fierce fermenation. My blow off tube literally sounded like a machine in my sanitized solution mason jar!!

Does anyone have any idea if reusing a yeast cake would diminish the amount of time you can allow the beer to sit in the primary... Maybe thats a question for a different thread.

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