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How much time does a yeast starter really need?
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So I was going to brew on Sunday, but I have to do it tonight after work due to the SWMBO's edict. I was going to make a starter from some washed Kolsh yeast for my Oktoberfest Ale tonight, but now I have to accelerate it. The question is; will a 6 hour old starter provide enough yeast to adequately pitch 5 gal? (Note I have 4 pint mason jars with about 1/2 inch of slurry in each so I could maybe use two?)
If not I can stop at my LHBS on the way home and pick up a pack of dry yeast. In this case does anyone have a recommendation for a clean yeast that is similar to a lager, but ferments around 64 degrees? I suppose I could ask them, but would like to have an idea before I go in.
Thanks!
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10-23-2009, 06:59 PM
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what is your expected OG? that will tell you if you really need a starter especially with dry yeast
I know that it is good to use it... but basically that is too short to really get full use out of the starter.... if you do that, i would definately recommend not decanting the wort on top and pitch the whole thing as a lot of yeast will still be in suspension and you will be throwing your best and most active yeast away when you poor off the wort.
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10-23-2009, 07:00 PM
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but to stress, what is your OG and use Mr Maltys calculator to determine if you need it or not. Unless you are over 1.05 you really dont need it.
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10-23-2009, 07:06 PM
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I don't know that 6 hours does you much good, really. It certainly won't hurt, and you never know just how quickly that yeast might take off, but I wouldn't count on it. Since you have the extra yeast, you certainly aren't stuck. Pitch two of the jars, and go to bed.
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10-23-2009, 07:24 PM
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if you can stop by the LHBS why not just pick up two liquid yeast and directly pitch. Here its a time vs value of money thing, you are out of time and need to get the brew done.Or like Texlaw said pitch a couple of the pints and call it good.
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10-23-2009, 07:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by k2brew
So I was going to brew on Sunday, but I have to do it tonight after work due to the SWMBO's edict. I was going to make a starter from some washed Kolsh yeast for my Oktoberfest Ale tonight, but now I have to accelerate it. The question is; will a 6 hour old starter provide enough yeast to adequately pitch 5 gal? (Note I have 4 pint mason jars with about 1/2 inch of slurry in each so I could maybe use two?)
If not I can stop at my LHBS on the way home and pick up a pack of dry yeast. In this case does anyone have a recommendation for a clean yeast that is similar to a lager, but ferments around 64 degrees? I suppose I could ask them, but would like to have an idea before I go in.
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what are you making? An Ale or a lager?
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10-23-2009, 07:34 PM
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It is an Oktoberfest Ale. The first one I brewed was the best one I have done so far and I used a Kolsh liquid yeast, but the dang thing was like $8.00. So I don't want to spend that much again when I have it sitting in my fridge.
Lets see OG should be around 1.044-1.046 depending on my mini-mash efficiency.
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10-23-2009, 08:08 PM
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It is an Oktoberfest Ale. The first one I brewed was the best one I have done so far and I used a Kolsh liquid yeast, but the dang thing was like $8.00. So I don't want to spend that much again when I have it sitting in my fridge.
Lets see OG should be around 1.044-1.046 depending on my mini-mash efficiency.
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If you are doing an Otoberfest Ale then I would go with Safale s-04 if you dry . That's what I use . I use Beirmunchers recipe and its always good in fact I have 10 gallons conditioning right now.
if not pitch two of more of the pints
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10-23-2009, 08:18 PM
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Do you happen to have BM's recipe that you could PM me? I'd like to benchmark against it. I did the same thing for my dunkelweizen and was almost spot on to a Schneiderweisse Dunkelweizen clone recipe.
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10-23-2009, 08:36 PM
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its right here in the recipe section Octoberfast
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