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Old 01-16-2014, 12:21 AM   #1
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I don't post very often but I am an avid home brewer and have been for about the last 5 years. I have a nagging issue with my beer I can't seem to shake, almost any beer I make tends to have an apple like fruity ester and the beer is never dry enough for me. Fermentation temps are often at the high end for any yeast strain I use but never get above 70. This really annoys me because I like a very dry finish and clean taste. I brew extract, partial mash and all grain and ferment in plastic carboys and a 15 Fallon plastic conical, always using an immersion chiller and I usually chill to about 65 degrees before I pitch. I use a lot of wyeast American ale 1 and 2 smack packs and us-05. I don't always make a starter but do when brewing anything at about 1.060 or above. The yeast flavors I get are good in some of the Belgians I make but I can't shake them in the other ales. Any suggestions? Is cooler fermentation the answer? No where in the house gets below 65 ambient. Longer conditioning seems to help but not a lot. Also I am kegging almost exclusively.

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For the dryness issue, what final gravity have your beers been ending up? The three suggestions I have for making drier beers is: 1) mash low (148F), 2) limit the amount of caramel or crystal malts in the recipe and 3) pitch lots of healthy viable yeast.

For the flavor issue, if its an estery flavor or a green apple acetaldehyde flavor, that is about your yeast and fermentation. Some ideas to help your yeast: 1) pitch plenty of it - err on the side of overpitching perhaps to see if that helps; 2) aerate your wort - splash it around, pour it through a sieve, or use an aeration wand - yeast need oxygen to do their work; 3) keep your fermentation temps low - for American style yeasts, I'll often ferment at 61 or 62 - if the air temperature is 65, the fermentation temps are probably up around 70, which is too high for a clean fermentation flavor profile. One solution is to get a tub that your fermenter fits into, fill with water and swap out ice bottles as needed - keep track of the temperature with a floating thermometer. Or get a freezer and electronic temp controller - its some dollars, but a great investment for a brewer in my opinion.

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Old 01-16-2014, 02:18 AM   #3
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Thanks for the suggestions. I did try to aerate before with splashing and rocking but the two beers I have in primary right now are my first go at aeration with a fish tank pump kit so we will see if that helps. Also the beer fermenting in the carboy is in a swamp cooler set up.....unfortunately I didn't get it there until active fermentation had already started. I think this may be the way to go in the future but leaves me at kind of a loss as to my 15 gallon conical. As I stated above my beers do clean up after more conditioning, I would just like to have them tasting good a little quicker. Cleaner and dryer is also better suited to my tastes so anything I can do to improve my beers in that direction is something I want to explore....already know how to get them good and estery.

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