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Old 11-07-2011, 08:05 PM   #1
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The weather in Utah right now is absolutely perfect for lagers, my garage is at a constant 50 degrees. I was doing some reading on the Fermentis website and there was a PDF that mapped out the yeast characteristics by strain. All the usual strains were there, but there was one that I've never seen or heard of. Apparently it's a dark lager strain suited to bock's. Denny provided a link to buy it from a smaller brewing company over on the Northern Brewer board, but other than that, I can't find any reviews on this stuff. Any help would be appreciated!

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Hi Danger,

You might be under their craft or industrial brewing sections. AS you said, you won't find it at a homebrew supply shop.

However, they do have two other lager yeasts, Saflager S-23 and Saflager W-34/70. The 34/70 is supposedly more of a true lager least where the S-23 is closer to an ale yeast (for making Californian common/steam beer). With the garage temps posted, no reason to think that you could not use 34/70 an obtain clean lager performance.

I have not used either of these yeast strains however i have used fermentis' T-58, S-05 and S-04 and have been extremely pleased with the quality and value of these yeasts.

That's all i got,

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Isn't the S-189 the one they sell in bulk? I read a rave review of it, but not sure where to get it in smaller sizes.

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Old 11-07-2011, 10:15 PM   #4
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You might be under their craft or industrial brewing sections. AS you said, you won't find it at a homebrew supply shop.
I know it's an industrial yeast, but it is actually available in homebrewer sized packs. Denny provided a link over on the NB forum here.

I'm just wondering if anyone has actually tried it. I love all of Fermentis' yeasts. I have a Maris Otter/Cascade SMaSH in the garage that's a Cali. Common using S-23 (test tube samples are amazing. As per the advice found on this forum I fermented at 60 because S-23 actually gives off tons of fruit flavors at true lager temps) S-05 is my go to yeast for anything that isn't completely driven by the yeast profile. The amount of ready to pitch yeast for the price is unbeatable.

Anyway, I was just looking for opinions before I spend the time and money on a brew with it.
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I just had a dozen packages of S-189 shipped to me from American Brewmaster. I am looking forward to trying it soon--supposed to be good for malty lagers. Apparently the strain is equivalent to WLP 885 Zurich Lager. I love W-34/70 but thought I would give this strain a try.

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I've used it twice, with awful results both times. Slow to start, a flabby texture and a very strong apple ester in the finished beer.

The yeast may have been old or infected, since it was clearly repackaged from a 500g brick by a homebrew store. I might try it again, but definitely not with a full batch of triple-decocted doppelbock or double pilsner.

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Think I'll do a 10g light lager or pils next and ferment 5 gallons with S-189 and 5 with W-34/70.

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I've used it twice, with awful results both times. Slow to start, a flabby texture and a very strong apple ester in the finished beer.

The yeast may have been old or infected, since it was clearly repackaged from a 500g brick by a homebrew store. I might try it again, but definitely not with a full batch of triple-decocted doppelbock or double pilsner.
Where did you get the yeast from? LHBS or some online source? It seems like Fermentis doesn't quite have their lager yeasts dialed in. I absoluetly love S-23 but not for normal lagers, just california commons. I've heard nothing but bad things about it from people who've used it as instructed.
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Where did you get the yeast from?
American Brewmaster.

I've been so chuffed with 2308 that it would take a lot for me to try or even point someone towards much else, let alone something that let me down in the past.
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I absoluetly love S-23 but not for normal lagers, just california commons. I've heard nothing but bad things about it from people who've used it as instructed.
I used S-23 in a pils that turned out great. I fermented in the mid-50s though. I have another pils lagering that I used S-23 with fermented in the mid-40s--just wanted to see if it was a fruity as everyone thinks. Didn't taste fruity to me after the d-rest, but we'll see how it turns out.

Overall I have had great luck with Fermentis dry lager yeasts so far. Hopefully S-189 is as good as I expect.
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