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Wingfan13 11-09-2012 07:26 PM

Fantome Saison clone, fermentation temp ?
 
What do you guys think I should ferment this beer at using Wyeast 3724 Belgian Saison yeast ? I know this yeast likes to ferment higher. Just wondering where everyone thinks I should be ? 75 ? 80?

I have only brewed with it once and it was a year or two ago. Suggestions ?

WoodlandBrew 11-09-2012 07:33 PM

I'm 30 minutes away from pitching yeast for a Saison. Going with 78 degrees for the whole fermentation time. Last time it came out great at that temperature.

Montanaandy 11-09-2012 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Wingfan13 (Post 4574001)
What do you guys think I should ferment this beer at using Wyeast 3724 Belgian Saison yeast ? I know this yeast likes to ferment higher. Just wondering where everyone thinks I should be ? 75 ? 80?

I have only brewed with it once and it was a year or two ago. Suggestions ?

We ramp up after pitching dial it in at 92'. Hit terminal gravity easily and don't get stuck at the dreaded 1.030 that this yeast is notorious for. We brew Saison/use this yeast on a regular basis and doing it this way never fails. 3724 is a completely different animal than 3711 or 3726, both of which ferment at lower temps.

Wingfan13 11-09-2012 11:55 PM

The best I am going to be able to do is 75 which is what I keep it at in the house. We will see how it turns out but the brew day went well.

TNGabe 11-10-2012 12:19 AM

What's your malt bill? Are you planning on pitching brett, too? I've read 3725, confusingly labeled 'Biere de Garde', is the Phantome Sacc. strain. ECY03 had has the Phantome brett and a blend of 4 Sacc. strains.

Wingfan13 11-10-2012 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TNGabe (Post 4574876)
What's your malt bill? Are you planning on pitching brett, too? I've read 3725, confusingly labeled 'Biere de Garde', is the Phantome Sacc. strain. ECY03 had has the Phantome brett and a blend of 4 Sacc. strains.

I was going back and forth on what I wanted to brew and just couldn't make up my mind. I went into Austin Homebrew and was flipping through their recipes and saw the Fantome clone. I did zero research on it.

I have no idea if this is gong to be close at all but

11 pounds Belgian pale
6 oz aromatic
1.5 pounds white wheat

Montanaandy 11-10-2012 12:58 AM

Yeast...
 
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Originally Posted by Wingfan13 (Post 4574790)
The best I am going to be able to do is 75 which is what I keep it at in the house. We will see how it turns out but the brew day went well.

If you don't have temp control you are better off using 3711 which will give you great results at lower temps. You will be very frustrated with 3724 if the highest temp you can ferment @ is 75'.

Wingfan13 11-10-2012 02:16 AM

I ended up moving it upstairs. It fluctuates between 77 and 80 up there. I do have a fermentation freezer but i don't have a way to keep it that warm in the freezer.

TNGabe 11-10-2012 02:19 AM

If ambient temp is pushing 80, your fermenter should hit mid 80s. Throw a sleeping bag or some blankets on it to help it stay warm when the fermentation slow down.

Montanaandy 11-10-2012 03:28 AM

Should Work...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TNGabe (Post 4575229)
If ambient temp is pushing 80, your fermenter should hit mid 80s. Throw a sleeping bag or some blankets on it to help it stay warm when the fermentation slow down.

If you can get into the mid 80's with blankets that will help quite a bit. You should be able to reach terminal gravity - just be prepared for a 4- 6 week fermentation period.


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