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Old 11-09-2012, 03:07 AM   #1
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Default Denny's Favorite vs 1056 Experiment

Myself and a fellow brewer are doing an experiment to see the difference between Denny's Favorite and 1056 Wyeasts. I made a 10 gal batch of cream ale with some slight differences in the recipe. I divided the wort into 2 different carboys and pitched equal amounts of yeast into each carboy. On the first day of my fermentation they looked the same. Then overnight the 1056 plugged the airlock and popped it off. I changed it for a blow off tube but noticed that the color of the wort on the 1056 was alot darker. My buddy did pretty much the same thing but didn't have the airlock issue. His beers are pretty much identical.
I can think of only 2 senerios. Either the pressure built up while the airlock was plugged somehow changed the color, or my buddy accidently pitched Denny's in both of his fermenters, but I doubt the last one. Can anyone tell me why the color is different in mine and not my Buddy's. Any idea's would be helpful.





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Yeast in solution will make the color lighter. If one yeast is more of a true top-cropping yeast, the beer could look darker since the yeast is up top and less dissolved in the beer. In the end both will be the same color once they flocculate.



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Did you pitch the same quantity of yeast? I could see how more or less yeast would change the color.

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Beat me by a minute mcgee

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As (sort of) already mentioned, flocculance is the culprit. Denny's is more flocculant. While it'll stay in solution early in fermentation, it drops pretty hard when it runs out of sugars it likes (hence the increased mouthfeel). 1056 starts way up top then drops slowly. Get it to 6+ generations and it can get downright powdery.

Also, I love these experiments but I can tell you how it's going to turn out: Denny's is equally as clean as 1056 but you'll get a bigger mouthfeel and (depending on age) a clearer beer. The big mouthfeel can be good or bad depending on what you're shooting for. Denny's is my 'secret weapon' for low gravity beers that demand a big mouthfeel (think English Mild). In bigger beers, the mash can accommodate and I generally stick to US-05 (more stable and the same strain).

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I did use the same quantity of yeast cells. I used wyeast smack packs with different dates but used Mr Malty's pitching rate calculator to figure out what size of starter to use to make equal amounts of cells. The 1056 was a 1l starter and the Denny's was a 1.4l starter.

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Denny's is my 'secret weapon' for low gravity beers that demand a big mouthfeel (think English Mild). In bigger beers, the mash can accommodate and I generally stick to US-05 (more stable and the same strain).[/QUOTE]

Why do you say same strain?

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1056 is the same as US-05.

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1056 is the same as US-05.
Have you experimented with this? I have split batches a couple of times with these yeasts and get a different result consistently.
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Have you experimented with this? I have split batches a couple of times with these yeasts and get a different result consistently.
Details please.


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