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Old 10-07-2010, 10:50 PM   #21
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I have an issue,

I have four more packs of this lot. I've had two batches go bad from AustinHBS, I bought the last four packs of this lot# on a road trip through Ohio.
My last brew with this purchase was the Fat Squirrel clone. I just tasted a sample of the brew and I can understand why it received an award. In other words, the pitch was good.

Should I send back the remaining packs, or should I brew with what has worked so far.

My gut tells me I shouldn't risk a four hour brew day, but the last pack worked. What should I do?

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Old 10-07-2010, 11:01 PM   #22
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If I just pitched it and it doesn't turn out, can I send them the empty packets?

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Old 10-07-2010, 11:08 PM   #23
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FWIW's during the last recall, the shipped back more than I shipped in to cover postage...
Except they replaced it with an equally bad batch.
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Old 10-07-2010, 11:20 PM   #24
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I have an issue,

I have four more packs of this lot. I've had two batches go bad from AustinHBS, I bought the last four packs of this lot# on a road trip through Ohio.
My last brew with this purchase was the Fat Squirrel clone. I just tasted a sample of the brew and I can understand why it received an award. In other words, the pitch was good.

Should I send back the remaining packs, or should I brew with what has worked so far.

My gut tells me I shouldn't risk a four hour brew day, but the last pack worked. What should I do?
Boil water with a little sugar and let it cool to the high end of the rehydrate range and through the yeast in. If it looks normal after an hour, use it, otherwise have a backup.
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Old 10-07-2010, 11:25 PM   #25
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Great. I've got 12 gallons of Graf pitched with this lot# of Notty; and I've got another packet in the fridge. This is the 2nd recall for Nottingham in what, a year? 6 months? I'll return my remaining packet to the LHBS & start using another brand of yeast. I guess I'll just have to wait & see how my Graf turns out. (crosses fingers)

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Old 10-07-2010, 11:25 PM   #26
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Yeah I used this notty as well recently and because of being busy I was unable to purchase a new pack of yeast to pitch (should've had a spare) and it actually finally just started showing signs of fermentation, (krausen and SG changes). It took upwards of 100 hours to start. I just hope it doesn't have any hint of infection, especially since I opened the bucket and checked the gravity on day 3 and there had still been nothing.

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Old 10-07-2010, 11:48 PM   #27
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I said it before, but it's worth saying again. Notty can suck it! I'll never EVER use it again, even if they did offer to reimburse me for the 15 gallons of beer it ruined.

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This is the email I received from Danstar support when questioning the original poster. (No I am not sorry for doubting, it is the internet after all & good on you OP for helping to spread the word! )...

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Yes this is true, but the information was released to our distributors and retailer just yesterday so we need it to "get to the marketplace" via retailers to homebrewers. I will be sending information about this to homebrewing forums in the coming days to allow a few days for retailers to get notification first as we want them to be ready for any consumer requests to return the sachets from this batch. As stated below, we feel there is concern among homebrewers regarding this batch so we would like to remove it from the market as we investigate the nature of any problem.

Thanks very much for contacting us. Your support is genuinely appreciated.

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Old 10-08-2010, 12:14 AM   #29
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Boil water with a little sugar and let it cool to the high end of the rehydrate range and through the yeast in. If it looks normal after an hour, use it, otherwise have a backup.
Just my $.02 but I wouldn't use those remaining sachets. If your beer turns out to be a "clove/phenol bomb" like Yooper's did you'll not likely be a happy camper! I've got a sachet from this lot and will be returning it to my LHBS the next time I'm there to pick up some ingredients.

FWIW - I've got a batch of CTZ IPA going with Notty right now (different lot #) and it tastes fine, I'll be washing the yeast and saving it since I know it's good.
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Old 10-08-2010, 12:24 AM   #30
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Just my $.02 but I wouldn't use those remaining sachets. If your beer turns out to be a "clove/phenol bomb" like Yooper's did you'll not likely be a happy camper! I've got a sachet from this lot and will be returning it to my LHBS the next time I'm there to pick up some ingredients.

FWIW - I've got a batch of CTZ IPA going with Notty right now (different lot #) and it tastes fine, I'll be washing the yeast and saving it since I know it's good.
I agree. I spent a fortune (it was an IPA) on ingredients. Now, if it was only a 5 gallon batch, I could blame it on me. Like fermentation temperatures, bacterial contamination, etc. But it was a 10 gallon batch- and only 5 with Nottingham. It still could be something I did, I suppose- like a bacterial contamination in the fermenter.

However, I brewed the batch as one ten gallon batch, sanitized two fermenters (exactly the same pails, exactly the same age) but otherwise split the batch evenly. Both started fermented within a day- pitched at 64 degrees initally, but it dropped to 62 degrees within 24 hours. The S05 batch tastes awesome, and I'm actually having a glass now. The notty batch was poured on the grass this afternoon, after giving it a bit more time in case that was the issue. Terribly phenolic.

Now, phenols to me scream "bacterial contamination". I don't know the reason for the recall, but since I had fermentation start up right away, I didn't worry too much about it. Now, I'm wondering about bacterial counts in the yeast. Is that an issue at all? I wonder.
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