Kegconnection Complete Starter Kit and More Giveaway!


Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Fermentation & Yeast > 2 yeast 1 starter

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 11-09-2011, 05:12 PM   #1
Fritobandito
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 211
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default 2 yeast 1 starter

I'm planning on making an all brett beer with a few different strains of brett. Could I make one 1500 mL starter and just pitch both vials into it? Or should I keep them separate.

__________________
Fritobandito is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-09-2011, 05:14 PM   #2
Fritobandito
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 211
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default

Just found out that White Labs does not recommend both strains in the same starter. One strain will outcompete and outgrow the other.

__________________
Fritobandito is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-09-2011, 05:33 PM   #3
DangerChristensen
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Bountiful, Utah
Posts: 14
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

Welcome to the Thunderdome. Two yeast enter, one yeast leaves!

__________________
DangerChristensen is offline
Aunt_Ester Likes This 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-09-2011, 05:52 PM   #4
william_shakes_beer
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Maryland
Posts: 1,838
Liked 85 Times on 77 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritobandito View Post
Just found out that White Labs does not recommend both strains in the same starter. One strain will outcompete and outgrow the other.
That would also happen in the fermenter once the strain(s) are pitched. No?
__________________
william_shakes_beer is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-09-2011, 05:59 PM   #5
Rushis
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 289
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by william_shakes_beer View Post
That would also happen in the fermenter once the strain(s) are pitched. No?
Eventually yes, but not as quickly as in a starter. The starter is primarily for yeast to multiply, the faster propagating yeast will quickly win out. During fermentation the yeast shouldn't spend a lot of time actively multiplying, with a large starter of each strain you can get the characteristics of both yeast in the finished product. And keep in mind that brett works slowly in comparison to sacc.
__________________
Rushis is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-09-2011, 06:09 PM   #6
DannPM
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: KC Area, KS
Posts: 1,829
Liked 20 Times on 18 Posts
Likes Given: 34

Default

There's really not a lot of data or research into what type (killer or neutral) beer strains are, at least from what I've tried to find. From what I could find, and from what I've read about people doing, almost all, if not all, appear to be of the neutral type. This as opposed to Champagne yeast, which is killer, as are some other wine yeasts.

I do not think Brett is killer, I believe it is neutral and that you will be ok, but you never know until you try it because there isn't really any data out there on this, especially pertaining to private label stuff like what White Labs and Wyeast carry.

Also, Brett as the lone primary fermentation agent will work on the same time table as sacc strains, fermentation will not take longer. Here's some good reading for your upcoming brew

__________________

Time to have some fun

DannPM is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply


Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Do you know how to make a yeast starter? Then why not farm yeast and freeze it? BBL_Brewer Fermentation & Yeast 481 05-19-2014 04:35 AM
Starter or No Starter with Large Amount of Washed Yeast jww9618 Fermentation & Yeast 14 02-24-2014 03:56 PM
Mocktoberfest (marzen)- should i make a yeast starter with harvested yeast? mhayden37 Fermentation & Yeast 12 02-22-2012 01:24 PM
Attempting to make yeast starter from older yeast msa8967 Fermentation & Yeast 2 11-05-2011 02:48 AM
Can you add more starter wort to an existing yeast starter? vast_reaction Fermentation & Yeast 10 10-07-2011 03:15 AM