Originally Posted by MazdaMatt
I gotta say... I've read about the concept of group-think developing on forums and I've seen it on exercise-related forums, but MAN is it strong in this place.
Guy asks if it is okay to do something less than recommended
Antoher guy says he's done it a bunch of times without failure but is a newb
Guy says, okay, cool I'll try that due to limited resources
Everyone $#!ts a brick.
You people have got to take things less personally and stop confusing "I've done it and it works" with "this is how you ought to do it".
What gets me is that it is later suggested that he just pitch dry instead of mixing up a little bit of sugar water to get things started and nobody has a problem with that... crazy.
Evaluate your level of group-think, people. There is more than black and white in this world. One is not stupid for doing slightly less than the best possible option in the world.
That being said the newb was offering bad advice. Just because he "does it all the time" doesn't mean it's actually working properly. I wouldn't be surprised if he is making under-attenuated beer.
Aside from that it's hard not to be frustrated when someone poses a question, is given solid advice from seasoned brewers, and then completely ignores it because one other person on the forum decided to agree with him and give him the answer for which he was hoping.
And yes. One is stupid. Making starters with table sugar is stupid. There are plenty of gray areas is brewing, but science isn't one of them. It is a fact that if you make a starter with sugar you are making lazy yeast. And when making starters yeast health is always more important than quantity. So pitching strait from the vial instead of from a half assed starter is definitely the more advised option.