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Old 10-08-2008, 04:24 AM   #1
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I'm not totally worried about infection, but this is just something I've never seen before.

First up, my xmass ale. About 3 weeks ago something started happening that I wasn't sure about. "Ice bergs" were forming, strange crystal looking formations and big huge bubbles:



That's a tame picture. I listened to all the recommendations on here and did not dump. about 2 weeks later everything started to drop out, but I still have this "funk" in the middle and many many bubbles:



These were taken about 2 weeks into seconday

Now my 999 Barley Wine is doing strange things:



It's hard to see in the pics, but it's getting the same "ice bergs" and crystals as the xmass ale was getting. This pic was taken today. Brewed on July 13th and in secondary about 3 weeks.

Am I paranoid??? Tell me it will be ok!!!

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Old 10-08-2008, 04:41 AM   #2
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any similarities between the batches yeast, same carboy etc... What are you using to sanatize and is there any type of pellicle developing?

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Old 10-08-2008, 04:47 AM   #3
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looks like yeast to me. Pull a quick sample and taste it. I bet your fine.

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Old 10-08-2008, 04:54 AM   #4
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any similarities between the batches yeast, same carboy etc...
Well...Similarites start with injecting some CO2 into the dead space with one of them cartridge shooter deals...Similar to this

Then...I took a sample of the xmass, put the thief into sanitizer then took a sample from the 999. That's where all connections drop.

This is the first I've ever let anything bulk age this long so I'm hoping it's normal. I had thought a pellicle was starting on the xmass, but it dropped. There where some huge bubbles forming but they've all gone.
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if theres no pellicle and your confident in your sanitation then i would just relax and wait. From here it looks like normal yeast activity maybe a bit odd but then again what fermentation isnt. I would sanitize your theif and take a taste. Nothin in there is going to kill you, at worst you will taste something a bit off putting.

What sanitizer did you use? And you sanitized before going into the xmas right?

edit: and what yeast and temps did you use?

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Old 10-08-2008, 07:43 AM   #6
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the first pic is a little gross. big bubbles like that aren't good. However, the fact they dropped and there's nothing left growing on the surface tells me that it's fine. the second and third pics look a-ok. Those "icebergs" look like little floating colonies of yeast with CO2 bubbles stuck to 'em. They too will eventually drop to the bottom.

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Old 10-08-2008, 08:58 AM   #7
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It's been my experience (and I've had way too much of it, frankly ) that infections don't go away. The gross ass stuff on top just keeps getting bigger and uglier and never drops out. I've seen that first pic before and it's been normal. On the second pic I don't like the iceberg remnants but if it's gone and not coming back it's probably alright. Third one looks normal to me too.

I've got a pilsner that was infected back in July and I decided to keep it. It's got a thick mat of pellicle on top about 1/2" thick. It ain't going anywhere. Smells wonderful though.

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I'm more shocked that someone is selling a $20 bicycle tire pump w/ a rigged up adapter for 50 bucks plus shipping!
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Normal stuff you will be ok.

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I'm more shocked that someone is selling a $20 bicycle tire pump w/ a rigged up adapter for 50 bucks plus shipping!

Wow that's a good idea!! I'd thought about that, but I wasn't sure it would work. I'm about to buy one for $14 including shipping.
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