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Old 06-12-2014, 12:30 AM   #21
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Honey does not have to be pasteurized either, it is shelf stable indefinitely becuase its moisture content is tow low to grow anything.
Does that mean that honey is sterile?
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Old 06-12-2014, 02:42 AM   #22
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Correct it being a IIPA another half oz bittering would be ok. I wouldn't add any 20min additions though. What's the point to FWH. That's the flavor addition. The aroma and flavor from the 170 hopstand is amazing . I will never add hops any other way. Dry hopping is essential, but I do it to taste. I have chose not to dry hop a perfect tasting beer.
Being relatively new to brewing, I've read on FWH, but have never tried it. It's interesting to me that a 60min boil of a hop might would add bitterness only, but FWH AND a 60min boil also adds flavor. I'm looking for a 4th brew to do next time (Pliny the Elder clone, Cream -lawnmower- ale and Hard Lemonaid), possibly something with this FWH to experiment with. Any suggestions/recipes?
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Old 06-12-2014, 07:57 PM   #23
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It's not enough carapils to affect it. The balance is there
It's your beer, it's your recipe, brew what you want. But if you really think the Carapils doesn't have an affect, then ask yourself, "why use it?"

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12oz of Carapils in a 5 gallon batch adds 5 points to both the OG and the FG. Whereas 12oz more of 2 Row or another malt would add 5.5 points to the OG and only 1 point to the FG. 4 points difference in the FG of a beer is not a minor difference, especially in an IIPA.

If you were making a 4% beer, I wouldn't criticize it. It's tough to maintain body in a small beer. So it's okay to add Carapils to increase the body of a small beer. And it's okay to mash low or use sugar to counteract the residual sweetness of the Carapils, because your purpose in using it is to add body and you are counteracting the side affect of using it.

Your recipe has 14lbs of grain without the Carapils. That should be enough malt to give the beer plenty of body. If it lacks body, that's probably a mash problem.

You don't need it for heading. 14lbs of grain and 9oz of hops will provide plenty of heading compounds to the beer. If the beer doesn't pour with a head, then you need to check for cleanser residue on your equipment or glasswear.

Which means you have a recipe that uses a dry yeast. Then you are adding sugar to dry it out even further. And then you are adding unfermentables that undry it and don't provide any other benefit.

If you want it dry, replace the Carapils with more base malt. If you don't want it dry, take out the Carapils, take out the sugar, and add more base malt to keep the same OG.
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Old 06-14-2014, 04:29 PM   #24
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I did*

.5 oz summit FWH*
1 oz warrior 60 min
1 oz cascade 20 min
.5 oz summit 10 min
1 oz citra hop stand 170F
1 oz amarillo hop stand 170F
1 oz simcoe hop stand 170F

Dry hop:
2 oz citra 5 days
1 oz simcoe 5 days
1 oz falconers flight 5 days

Alot more balanced i feel

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In any case, doing is proving. Brewing a Falconer's Flight IPA. I took .25oz from the 10min and flamout additions to FWH, .5oz total. Not doing a side by side comparison, but results should speak for themselves.

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This beer is outstanding. The hop profile is unique but not confused. People said it was the best IIPA they've ever had. I had them do a blind tasting too. I want someone to brew this and experience the deliciousness.

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