Originally Posted by barneygumble

I had a Harpoon IPA last night that was downright aweful. I usually like the beer, but hadn't had any in a while. The stuff was on sale at the local market so I bought a twelver. I hope the other 11 are not this bad, but I do not hold out hope. Really bad oxidation coupled with mustiness from clearly poorly stored malt resulted in a peat moss and cardboard nightmare. It was also missing its characteristic hop flavor too. It was like a mild pale ale gone horribly wrong.

Originally Posted by coldbrewnoob

Ya steel reserve really does stink. But if you go to Oklahoma it's not bad cause they can only make a 3.2% and its good. But for me miller high life is crap. I can't drink one with out having astma attack. I have read they put detergent in it to give it head. I will never drink a miller product again.

Originally Posted by barneygumble

I tried the next beer, and it was better. Still not the beer I remember but very drinkable. I dont like quoting myself, but I wanted to say it was a bottle specific problem. Prolly a bad cap. Still tho, its not the floral spicy East Coast IPA I remember.

I was in a safety professional seminar with a brewer from Miller once. I do know they take pride in the lack of things like detergents in their beer. Their whole claim to fame with MHL is the clear bottle to show that they do not do that stuff...to which I asked if they were high relying on a freaking supermarket to protect their brews from UV to prevent skunking. He said he was going to pass this on. To this day they do not extend their sixers packaging to protect their brew. I dunno. Maybe the corporate types dont listen to THEIR employees either, even if they are brewers.

Originally Posted by emjay

Many large breweries use iso-hop extract for bittering. Miller in particular uses it exclusively for most of their beers, making it impossible to skunk.