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Old 07-13-2010, 03:48 AM   #11
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There's a specialty category for the less common beers. Having a style guideline for a gose wouldn't really do a lot for the homebrew community or for judging in general because it isn't likely you're going to have a big influx of the style. Even then, trying to find examples of beers that are rare like that would be a chore.

I think the list is comprehensive for modern styles. If you add too many more, you're going to have a bulky compendium that would get too unwieldy. You have to draw a line somewhere.

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Old 07-13-2010, 04:29 AM   #12
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From what I've heard from high ranked BJCP judges, they wait to see if fad beers stick around a while before creating a category. It would not surprise me if in the next BJCP revision that they do add a couple additional styles.

As was said above, there is the specialty category for beers out of style. That is usually the proving ground for additional styles. Rye and Black IPA's are now common beers that are outside the regular IPA categories and are often found in that category.

My own opinion, I think that not only should there be a Black IPA category, but I think there should be a specialty category for "imperialized" beers. Everyone is making imperial pilsners, porters, reds etc. and I think separating them out of the general specialty category would help.

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Old 07-13-2010, 04:55 AM   #13
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It kinda seems like (1) people brew to meet BJCP...
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From what I'm hearing, there will be a revision in 2011. May or may not be accurate, as I'm not on the board.

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Old 07-13-2010, 10:49 AM   #15
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It kinda seems like (1) people brew to meet BJCP and (2) BA works to help define what people brew - kind of a prescriptionist vs. subscriptionist angle...
I'd say that you're right, but here is the reasoning:

1) People brew to meet BJCP for 2 reasons:
A- Because it's easier to learn to brew to style first before shooting from the hip, and
B- To win competitions. You won't win if you're not brewing to the guidelines against which your beer will be judged.

2) It's much easier for the BA to keep track of and quantify "what people brew". They have a large list of members and an industry to take the pulse of. Homebrewing runs the gamut of what is brewed and it would be impossible to really keep track of who brews what.
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:59 AM   #16
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Rye and Black IPA's are now common beers that are outside the regular IPA categories and are often found in that category.
That'd be a mistake. As much as I enjoy both rye and black IPAs, I'd hammer them (especially the black) if they put in front of me on a judging table to be judged as 14B. Unfortunately I've had some really good beers while judging that I had to give bad scores to because they were entered into the wrong category.
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Go read all of the luv in the CDA (Cascadian Dark Ale) thread and you'll see why the BJCP updates take time.

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Again, relying mainly on "brew like a monk" at the moment, but it seems there are plenty of "classic" beers that do not fit the current BJCP style guidelines.

i.e. Westvleteren Blond, La Trappe Blond, Duvel (typically 'defines' Golden Strong Ale), Grimberegen Dubbel

It makes me wonder how many other beers would not meet the requirements of BJCP guidelines.

I also understand that it does not really matter that much. Your average judge (or even experienced judge for that matter) cannot tell the difference between 13 SRM and 16 SRM, an OG of 1.087 and 1.094, etc.
I guess I don't see why a commercial beer should fall within the BJCP guidelines, which are for homebrew. And if you want to propose a new style for the BJCP guidelines, there are outlines of how to write it on the website, IIRC.
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Well the previous update before that was 2004. Committees take a long time to do anything.
I thought there was an update in 2008? At least I can select that in beersmith
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I thought there was an update in 2008? At least I can select that in beersmith
They meant the update *before* the 2008 one.
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