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Old 02-08-2012, 12:09 PM   #21
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I had Stone's Sublimely Self Righteous on tap last summer in Miami. Had a nice piney/citrusy hop character over caramel/chocolate roastiness. It was wonderful. I like a crisp clean IPA as much as anyone, but this was a nice balance between hop character and roast. It wouldn't be something I would drink every day, but once in a while this is an awesome beer.


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Old 02-08-2012, 12:46 PM   #22
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Lakefront's got a "IBA" now that is fantastic; I can smell the Cascade hops from the other room when someone opens one. It's just a nice summer drinking beer; malt and hop balance, but with a bit of roast, and a great citrus finish. My wife is not a fan (she doesn't like "pine trees and coffee," as she calls it).
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Old 02-08-2012, 12:56 PM   #23
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Otter creeks alpine black ipa is good, as is heavy seas loose cannon?( not sure if that's the name) but its good. I also like the bipa kit from northrern brewer. Can't explain why I like them, I just do.
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Otter creeks alpine black ipa is good, as is heavy seas loose cannon?( not sure if that's the name) but its good. I also like the bipa kit from northrern brewer. Can't explain why I like them, I just do.
you mean black cannon.. loose cannon is their standard ipa.
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you mean black cannon.. loose cannon is their standard ipa.
Yes that's the one , thanks for reminding me
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Just like any IPA, it can finish dry and crisp, or more malty with a moderate mouth-feel, or cloyingly sweet.

I think too often people forget that a regular IPA can finish between 1.010 and 1.018sg and be within guidelines. It's when people try an "IPA" that has 25% crystal malts and it finishes at 1.020-1.025 and associate a higher FG as cloyingly sweet garbage, not a refreshing IPA. An IPA with no cara/crystal malts that finishes in the 1.014-1.016 on the other hand leaves some nice malt flavor with no real sweetness, which help make a balanced IPA. It's wether you want 'dry-hop juice', 'semi-balanced', or 'sweet-hop juice'.

Some examples of these dark hoppy ales are just ipa's with some carafa special in for mostly coloring, others actually have some roast flavor. It's like a schwarzbier IPA. Some good, some boring, and some not so good.

American Stout on the other hand (a mostly ignored style), can be what delicious, dark malts and hops combine into. Can be lightly hopped or heavily hopped.
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Uinta Dubhe ftw!
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i have a CDA and a BIPA in the cellar. i am brewing one this weekend and i will be cracking them open. one is Deschuttes Hop-in-the-Dark and the other is Rogue's Daddy's Little Helper. These would help be develop a taste for them.

does anyone know the difference between a CDA and a BIPA?? i know it can be a region thing.


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