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Old 10-08-2012, 07:11 PM   #11
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sorry, used up was a poor choice of words, i simply meant that the added starch from the pumpkin (as little as it may be) would use the enzymes in the same manner as grain and thus slow down the conversion (fairly insignificantly), i.e. make a higher starch:enzyme ratio

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Old 10-08-2012, 07:19 PM   #12
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Didn't look it up but if I remember pumpkin is only 10-15% convertible starches.. not enough to need extra enzymes..

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Old 10-08-2012, 07:49 PM   #13
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I use 2-row for my pumpkin ale and just lengthen the rest to 90 minutes (which probably isn't even necessary). Turnes out great and I don't plan to do anything differently in the future.

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Didn't look it up but if I remember pumpkin is only 10-15% convertible starches.. not enough to need extra enzymes..
It actually has quite a bit less starch than even that. My can of Libby's says 7% total carbs, which includes fiber, sugar, and starch. But the label says fiber and sugar is the entirety of that 7%, thus leaving very little if any starch. One web site says 0.3% starch, which is consistent with the Libby's label.
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It actually has quite a bit less starch than even that. My can of Libby's says 7% total carbs, which includes fiber, sugar, and starch. But the label says fiber and sugar is the entirety of that 7%, thus leaving very little if any starch. One web site says 0.3% starch, which is consistent with the Libby's label.
Just keep in mind exactly what that label actually means - it means that, per suggested serving size, there is 7% of the suggested daily intake of total carbs (specifically fiber, sugar, and starch) for a recommended 2,000 calorie diet. That does not mean that 7% of the contents of the can is those carbs.
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Old 10-08-2012, 08:56 PM   #16
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I suspect you are looking at an older recipe. Modern, fully-converted 2-row can do any job 6-row can.

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Just keep in mind exactly what that label actually means - it means that, per suggested serving size, there is 7% of the suggested daily intake of total carbs (specifically fiber, sugar, and starch) for a recommended 2,000 calorie diet. That does not mean that 7% of the contents of the can is those carbs.
Utterly wrong, but kudos for confusing things.

The can states that in each 122g, there are 9g of Total Carbs, which includes 5g of Dietary Fiber, 4g of Sugars, with the remainder (unlisted but roughly 0g) being starch. So that's 7% Carbs by weight and very little starch.
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I used 2 row for my pumpkin ale this year (first time doing it all-grain) and it worked out fine...the runnings were a little more viscous than I'm used to, but it worked out OK...drinking one now, and it's tasty if I do say so myself...

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Utterly wrong, but kudos for confusing things.

The can states that in each 122g, there are 9g of Total Carbs, which includes 5g of Dietary Fiber, 4g of Sugars, with the remainder (unlisted but roughly 0g) being starch. So that's 7% Carbs by weight and very little starch.
My mistake - I read the percentages and, wrongly, assumed someone had read the percentages off the nutritional label and were going by that, rather than reading the weights and doing the math.

Still, no need to get snippy/douchey about a response to a somewhat vague post. We're all friends here, man!
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My mistake - I read the percentages and, wrongly, assumed someone had read the percentages off the nutritional label and were going by that, rather than reading the weights and doing the math.

Still, no need to get snippy/douchey about a response to a somewhat vague post. We're all friends here, man!
What's douchey is calling somebody out as being wrong when you can't be bothered to spend 30 seconds getting the facts straight first. And you know what they say about making Assumptions!
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