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Old 07-27-2009, 05:03 AM   #1
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Default Who Likes Bananas and Cloves?

Aside from the Pol, I mean who really likes it in their beers? I ask because I want to make a Belgian beer, but I don't like these flavors. So I am trying to hunt down some delicious yeast that will not produce these flavors. I have a couple in sight, but just want to know who really thinks that bananas and cloves in beer taste good. What have you made with this profile that you said, "Oh yeah! That banana flavor in my beer tastes really good. I love how the beer is accentuated by the hops and how the yeast gives me banana and clove."

I don't like it, at all. Let me know though.

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Old 07-27-2009, 05:12 AM   #2
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I have a dunkelweissen that has a very pleasant, subtle banana and clove flavor.

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Old 07-27-2009, 05:30 AM   #3
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Banana flavor in a German wheat beer is a must for me.

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Banana flavor in a German wheat beer is a must for me.
I completely agree
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I don't consider it a true heffe-style unless it has some banana/clove flavors. If those flavors are lacking it's just an American wheat to me.

That said, I love banana/clove in german heffe styles.

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When you guys say clove flavors, is that a clove-like flavor created by the yeast? Or are you actually talking about adding cloves to a recipe. I recently made a Winter Spiced Ale, and used 1/8 tsp of freshly ground cloves right before flameout of the boil. I didn't think 1/8 tsp would do much, but the flavor is DEFINITELY there, if not a little overpowering.

Do you guys think this will mellow out a bit with time? Everything about the beer so far tastes good (I've been sneaking sips from my hydrometer tube) except for a little more clove-like taste than I would expect (it's the aftertaste, if anything, that is not desireable). The beer definitely has a spicy, biscuity, gingerbread like quality to it, which is exactly what I was going for. I'm just hoping the cloves calm down a bit.

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I really like the banana and clove flavors in wheat beers. A hefe is not a hefe unless is has it, another great example is Sweaty Betty from Boulder Beer that is delicious. I also fermented a stout warm last year with a hefe yeast and got some really good banana flavor and aroma out of it. Very good

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A German style Hefeweizen typically has those flavors. A Belgian style beer (Wit, Dubbel, or Tripel may,) but it's usually way more subtle. If you are looking for something that is less fruity, pick a strain like Wyeast 3068 or 3944. Or use a Kolsch yeast or American Wheat yeast.

Additionally, ferment at the cool end of the temperature range for the yeast to keep these flavors at bay.

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I reread your post.

Sorry for the advice that you didn't ask for.

I like Banana and Clove.

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Aside from the Pol, I mean who really likes it in their beers? I ask because I want to make a Belgian beer, but I don't like these flavors. So I am trying to hunt down some delicious yeast that will not produce these flavors. I have a couple in sight, but just want to know who really thinks that bananas and cloves in beer taste good. What have you made with this profile that you said, "Oh yeah! That banana flavor in my beer tastes really good. I love how the beer is accentuated by the hops and how the yeast gives me banana and clove."

I don't like it, at all. Let me know though.
It's essential in a German style hefe and very nice on a warm summers day.
We used to add a shot of banana pulp to Hefe's in Germany sometimes too, making a "banana-hefe", we were up North which is more pils country so maybe down South they'd have frowned upon it. It was something the Germans showed us too, not some mad Irish idea.
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