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Old 11-30-2012, 11:30 PM   #21
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On very few occasions do I stay true to a recipe. I have yet to produce a bad beverage on anything I've tried except once (so far). I really didn't pay attention and screwed up a ginger ale for my grandkids. We couldn't drink it and I still don't know what I did wrong.
So following recipes, I guess I am sloppy and just look at them as guidlines.

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Old 12-01-2012, 09:18 PM   #22
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"I've got to disagree 100% on this one. I can throw a beer together or I can throw together some dough and get in the ball park, but if I want to have consistent results, measurements must be made."

So you haven't tried different hops or different hops addition times than scheduled? I think you missed my point a bit. You can make slight changes in your brewing and get different results. You can bump up your Ibu's without adding more hops, but adding them at different times in the boil.

Brewing beer is an ongoing process that allows you to make changes to the batch much like cooking. Baking? Once it's in the oven, it's in the oven. Very hard to correct baking after the dough ball is formed and raised. Beer? Flexibility in changing the flavor profile even weeks after the boil.

Hope that clears my comments up for you.
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Well shoot, I was going to make this real smart sounding post about how I get my beers all figured out when I'm recipeing, but now I'm running on 20 minutes sleep and 4 beers in and I don't even have the hop schedule figured out for my 'French Farmhouse Toasted Oat Table Biere', so yeah I guess I'm pretty sloppy afterall. Not to mention trying to squeeze the extra few ounces of beer in when I was dry hopping, is it sanitary to suck beer through a straw til the hops stop trying to escape?
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Old 12-03-2012, 03:55 AM   #23
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I probably put far more effort into sanitation than I need to but other than that I'm about as sloppy as it gets.

Recipes? Sure I follow them, for the most part, but as Alton Brown once said: "Anyone can follow a recipe into oblivion."

At this stage in my enjoyment of this hobby I know and admit I don't get what I should out of mash/steep process. I'm not above adding a half pound of light DME to the recipe during the boil. Heck, I brewed a few batches before I even knew what the term "sparge" meant. Of course that might explain why those batches were weak and thin in flavor and body. Meh, you live, you learn.

To me, a little sloppiness isn't the end of the world. You can learn from your mistakes and adjust yourself and your process. I like to think of it as practice and eventually everything will come around and be like second nature during brewing. My "sloppiness" has allowed me to learn a lot about brewing that I wouldn't have by simply reading a book about brewing and meticulously following a recipe.

Maybe someday I'll change but for now I'm having a lot of fun and enjoying myself.

The most important thing I've learned so far? Even what some here would consider a "bad" home brew is usually better than a lot of the stuff you can buy in a store.

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Old 12-03-2012, 04:04 AM   #24
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Im really strict on sanitation, but like some say, just depends, thats why I like writing my own recipes....I gotta think thats a big part of why we all are passionate about homebrewing

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Old 12-03-2012, 04:06 AM   #25
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The most important thing I've learned so far? Even what some here would consider a "bad" home brew is usually better than a lot of the stuff you can buy in a store.
....And thats why we do it

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Old 12-03-2012, 04:11 AM   #26
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I spend far too much time figuring out the chemistry of brew - and food - calculating what can happen, what works, what does not. I generate stupidly complex recipes with long lists of notes. And then I get to brew day. I look at the recipe once. And start throwing stuff in without measuring or paying attention to timing. I take a dip from the pot every 5 minutes or so and take a taste. When I ferment it, I keep on tasting every couple days, all the way until it is bottled. Sometimes I keep notes all the way through, but most of the time I do not. As a result, I have a decent palate for what a beer tastes like at the beginning and what it ends up tasting like months later. I often can save an ale going bad by adjusting midway as a result.

When I get a recipe that turns out amazing, I dash down notes, and spend two or three brews recreating it and measuring out exactly what was in it. I taste as I go, compare, contrast, try to improve it, until I get a recipe I love. Then, when I brew it next time, I stick close to the central recipe, but tend to fudge one or two things just to see what it does.

I have a bad time sticking to a recipe.

Oh, and I am retentive about sanitation. I do not have enough money to waste on a brew gone bad because of bad sanitation. Whereas, a brew gone bad because of a bad recipe that I can handle. I just bottle it or barrel it, then mix it in with another brew that went bad, until they taste good together. Cannot do that with a badly sanitized brew, unless you get just the right bacteria messing it all up. Have made a couple great sours as a result of bad sanitation, but most of the time it is simply unrecoverable. Have also managed to find some adjuncts that do a good job covering off flavors. Or cover up when I overhop. Unripe mangos are awesome at pulling out excess alpha acids to reduce bitterness in a brew.

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Old 12-03-2012, 09:29 AM   #27
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we dont have temperature control in our brewing setup, or even any proper brewing equipment save two old tea boilers and some fermentation vessels.
So when we brew its pretty much on the fly. i usually stick to some sort of style guideline, and then just don't stray too far during the brew. i do keep a record of recipes, ferm temps ect so the odd beer that is outstanding can be brewed again, when the season for that ferm temp comes round again.
my beer is good, comparable to real ale.

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Old 12-03-2012, 04:46 PM   #28
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I'm sloppy after brewing. My storage room isn't great (plenty of spoilage organisms I'm sure - tin foil and airlocks stop them very well)... but I always try to do what I set out to do and I'm fairly good with cleaning and sanitation of equipment. Everyone can improve their process . . . I just need more improvement than many.

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I am also a lazy / sloppy brewer. I am very good about sanitation because I would hate to see one of my creations go bad. I will sometimes on a whim by a different specialty malt at the homebrew shop I will add hops especially towards the end of the boil I almost never take notes and forget to take o.g. readings. Most recipes I pick out of thin air. I aspire to do all the thing great brewers do but at this point I am having to much fun coming up with original recipes. So far I have been lucky. There are just to many hop and malt varieties and I am having too much fun exlporing them.

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