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**Brewskii** · 01-31-2013, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CGVT

I put the honey in at 5 minutes.

It leaves a hint of honey flavor and the perception of sweetness.

I thought it was good that way. I would not want anymore honey flavor than I got by doing it that way. I did not secondary, BTW.

Me too, on all counts except I put it in @ ~ 1 min. -enough to let it see some heat before chilling. I think it was the beersmith pod cast where I heard someone say If you do a lot of honey beers and add it to secondary, you will eventually get an infected batch as honey is not clean. I suppose this is for non-pasteurized natural honey? Not sure about that.
Also, it is true that the flavor of honey will eventually degrade with the boil.
I suppose it depends on where you see yourself in this debate.

**Pappers_** · 01-31-2013, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Brewskii

Me too, on all counts except I put it in @ ~ 1 min. -enough to let it see some heat before chilling. I think it was the beersmith pod cast where I heard someone say If you do a lot of honey beers and add it to secondary, you will eventually get an infected batch as honey is not clean. I suppose this is for non-pasteurized natural honey? Not sure about that.
Also, it is true that the flavor of honey will eventually degrade with the boil.
I suppose it depends on where you see yourself in this debate.

I added it at the very end of the boil too - I took some of the wort out, in a separate bowl, and softened the honey in it, then poured it into the boil at 1 or flameout, I don't remember. But it had a very nice wildflower/jasmine aroma and flavor.

**cpesko** · 02-02-2013, 10:38 PM

They said the d word.

Patro · 02-03-2013, 02:39 AM

So do you think the white house brewers will come up with a couple more brews during the second term, switch over to all grain, or maybe even start growing grains and hops in the white house garden?

Stu-Brew · 02-08-2013, 12:23 AM

This is mildly interesting - that is all.

**alestateyall** · 02-08-2013, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu-Brew

This is mildly interesting - that is all.

I find lots of HBT threads mildly interesting and many more not interesting at all. But I don't bother posting just to say that.

**mpride1911** · 02-18-2013, 06:40 PM

I just want to know how I can get a job as the White House beekeeper.

**CGVT** · 02-20-2013, 10:22 PM

I have decided that I really like this beer

NewJersey · 02-20-2013, 10:31 PM

i just now found out that the white house beers are extracts... let down to say the least...

**CGVT** · 02-20-2013, 11:07 PM

I converted it to all-grain. (I add the honey at 5 minutes left in the boil)

Fermented at 65* The White House recipe calls for two TBS of Gypsum. I've made it with and without. With my water it is better with the gypsum

Ingredients
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
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9 lbs 8.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 2 80.9 %
12.0 oz Biscuit Malt (23.0 SRM) Grain 3 6.4 %
8.0 oz Amber Malt (22.0 SRM) Grain 4 4.3 %
0.75 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 5 16.1 IBUs
0.75 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 6 11.2 IBUs
1.50 oz Fuggles [4.50 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 7 5.2 IBUs
1.0 pkg SafAle English Ale (DCL/Fermentis #S-04) [23.66 ml] Yeast 8 -
1 lbs Honey (1.0 SRM) Sugar 9 8.5 %

Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.056 SG Measured Original Gravity: 1.056 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.011 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.010 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 6.0 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 6.0 %
Bitterness: 32.6 IBUs Calories: 185.8 kcal/12oz
Est Color: 6.7 SRM