Electric Brewing Supply 30A BCS Giveaway!


Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > General Beer Discussion > White house beer
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 09-14-2012, 09:15 PM   #361
terrapinj
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Santa Monica, CA
Posts: 2,412
Liked 167 Times on 124 Posts
Likes Given: 533

Default

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f127/hon...tation-329194/

obviously no way to prove it was the honey but there are a couple instances in that thread where honey is the likely source of infection - i just think it's inaccurate to say it's impossible or won't happen as opposed to very unlikely esp if using raw/unpasteurized honey
__________________
terrapinj is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-14-2012, 09:19 PM   #362
passedpawn
Waste Allocation Load Lifter - Earth Class
HBT_MODERATOR.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
passedpawn's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: ☼ Clearwater, FL ☼
Posts: 19,423
Liked 3509 Times on 2168 Posts
Likes Given: 3008

Default

Pasteurization is the process of killing spoiling bacteria with heat. The higher the heat, the shorter the time you need to keep the product at that temperature. Boiling is not necessary, but it's quicker.

There is a curve referred to as the pasteurization curve. Here's the curve I go by. I think the curve changes with different products, but it's a good start.

__________________
Hey goomba I love how you dance the rumba
But take some advice paisano learn-a how to mambo
If you're gonna be a square you ain't-a gonna go anywhere.
passedpawn is offline
Netflyer Likes This 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-15-2012, 01:04 AM   #363
bellmtbbq
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Pennington, NJ
Posts: 564
Liked 29 Times on 26 Posts
Likes Given: 125

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brundoggie
OK, so I brewed up a batch of the White House Honey Porter and thought I’d give a review:

Appearance – At first pour there was a lot of lively bubbling and a thick head but after a very short time it went completely flat. There was some residual bubble head but it was scattered and not coherent.

I expected a better color balance between the light malt extract and the darker grains but the brew color is definitely on the dark side. I’m sure that will appeal to some people.

Aroma – Very strong scent of Wright and Ayers hops which is very typical of the bitter Chicago-style brews. There is some masking of this bitterness with the use of government honey and Hawaiian flavors but the odor seems somewhat rotten as if something wasn’t quite right..

Taste – Despite the hype and expense there is very little taste. In addition to being flat and tasteless it is also very weak. Overall the flavor just doesn’t work.

When I contacted the White House they said that all my problems with this beer were due to the effects of the last batch I brewed (a Busch-clone). They also said I should try again and let the brew condition for 4 years to ensure full success.
This post is amazing...
__________________

Check out my blog! Lambic brewday!

Fathom Brewing

-TF

bellmtbbq is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-15-2012, 01:16 AM   #364
sloose
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 180
Liked 6 Times on 6 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by passedpawn
I add it at 5 minutes. Boiling longer and I'd guess some of the volatile compounds that give honey it's flavor and aroma are lost to steam.

I think adding it to cooled wort is a very bad idea. Honey won't support the growth of bacteria, but that doesn't mean it's sterile when you add it.
Dammit...I just brewed the brown ale this week....did a full boil on the 1lb honey. Dammit.
__________________

Bottled&Drinking: Founders All Day IPA Clone, Centennial blonde, Vienna Hefeweizen, Belgian wit, blizzard imperial IPA,
Conditioning: hard local cider
Primary: more local hard cider!
Secondary:
On Deck: English bitter, English IPA

sloose is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-16-2012, 02:31 AM   #365
jimbot
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 37
Liked 5 Times on 4 Posts
Likes Given: 11

Default

I brewed an all-grain conversion of this on Sep 2nd. Today I needed space in my _fermentator_ (I love that video) so I had to move it to a secondary Better Bottle. I didn't taste it, but there was a healthy 3/4 in. of yeast on the bottom. Also, it smelled fairly sweet and malty, and the gravity was at 1.008 (OG was 1.065). There was still a eighth inch of krausen on there. I had pitched two packets of yeast. Beersmith tells me 7.5% ABV, . It has a deep red brown hue.
I bottle, so in a week or two I'll let you all know how the sample is. I'm really hoping the honey dries it out, and that the IBV is strong enough to balance it out. Maybe the yeast can eek out a little more ABV, and perhaps the sweetness will balance out the heat from that.

--Jimbot

__________________
jimbot is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-16-2012, 02:41 AM   #366
Qhrumphf
Stay Rude, Stay SHARP
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
 
Qhrumphf's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 6,774
Liked 1599 Times on 1135 Posts
Likes Given: 657

Default

A friend and I brewed an all-grain version of the Honey Ale this morning. Honey sourced from hives approximately a mile from the White House (nice thing about living locally). Fermentation is in his hands. We'll see how it turns out.

__________________

Up Next: Flanders Red, Belgian IPA
Primary: Malt Liquor, Wild Cider, English Cider
Souring: Lamebic, Brett. C. Old Ale, Sour Stout, Brett C. Wild Bitter
Polypins: (Empty for now)
Bottled: Doppelsticke Altbier, Berliner Weisse, English Summer Ale, Coniston Bluebird Bitter Clone v1.5, Best Bitter, Spiced Winter Warmer, English IPA
In the "cellar": Brett B. Tripel, Quadrupel, Tripel, Brett C. Oaked English Barleywine, Lamebic

Qhrumphf is online now
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-16-2012, 07:58 PM   #367
Monstar
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Denver
Posts: 440
Liked 31 Times on 18 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default

image-2774095904.jpg

There she is! All grain. 7.1%, S05 yeast, Colorado honey, house roasted grains. I brewed this exactly one week ago today I believe. It's actually pretty damn tasty!

If I make it again, I'll definitely add more bitterness. The honey adds a really nice floral component to it. Overall, I would give it about a B+.
__________________
Monstar is offline
jimbot Likes This 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-17-2012, 05:04 AM   #368
Cajun_Tiger33
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 111
Liked 5 Times on 4 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Monstar

There she is! All grain. 7.1%, S05 yeast, Colorado honey, house roasted grains. I brewed this exactly one week ago today I believe. It's actually pretty damn tasty!

If I make it again, I'll definitely add more bitterness. The honey adds a really nice floral component to it. Overall, I would give it about a B+.
Could you send me your recipe for this all grain brew?
__________________
Cajun_Tiger33 is offline
Monstar Likes This 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-17-2012, 05:47 AM   #369
Sublimis
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Sublimis's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 79
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts
Likes Given: 29

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ktblunden View Post
pretty standard extract recipes with honey added. Nothing exactly amazing or shocking about it. Hopefully now that the recipes are released everyone can calm down. Though i expect a lot of politically charged commentary to pop up.

Edit: The first political comment came while i was reading the thread and then typing.
lmao!
__________________
Sublimis is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-17-2012, 04:00 PM   #370
nickharbour
Troll
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 157
Liked 10 Times on 8 Posts
Likes Given: 7

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Monstar View Post
Attachment 75923
I brewed this exactly one week ago today
Why the rush?
__________________
nickharbour is offline
2
People Like This 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply



Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools