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Old 09-02-2012, 03:57 AM   #121
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Maybe it is because I am reading this thread on my phone but can anyone tell me where the other 1oz of the fuggles goes in the honey ale? I see it has 1 1/2 oz listed but the directions only say to use 1/2 oz with a minute left. Also what is the point of using gypsum in a extract recepie?
I'm going to brew an all-grain version of this tomorrow. I'm assuming the Fuggles is all for aroma. This should make it a slightly malty instead of on the rather hoppy side.

I had a recipe worked out I was going to brew called Barocktoberfest, but this will be a great replacement instead.

I've got an ESB recipe that I've done both with and without gypsum. In my experience the gypsum brought out the hop flavor to the front in a aggressive, almost bite-on-the-tongue kind of way. I prefer the more mellow, without gypsum version. That being said, my water is nothing like DC's.

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Old 09-02-2012, 03:59 AM   #122
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I'm going to brew an all-grain version of this tomorrow. I'm assuming the Fuggles is all for aroma. This should make it a slightly malty instead of on the rather hoppy side.

I had a recipe worked out I was going to brew called Barocktoberfest, but this will be a great replacement instead.

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That's awesome! Let us know how it goes.
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Old 09-02-2012, 04:05 AM   #123
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He never brewed it !!!!
I'm pretty sure that fact has been established. Move On.
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Old 09-02-2012, 04:18 AM   #124
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I'm pretty sure that fact has been established. Move On.
Exactly. Who cares at this point. Its cool that home brewing was noticed on a national level or bigger. If someone takes that recipe(s) and makes an AG or makes the original better then the white house did then awesome. That's what home brewing is all about.
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Old 09-02-2012, 04:37 AM   #125
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Now I can just see it turning into a "fad" or "cool thing" because the president did it, and they brew it at the white house. I can also see all my relatives finding out that I am new to brewing and saying something like "Oh, did you see that Obama is brewing beer in the white house?". As if I am doing it only because of this.

Regardless of this, I do think its great that ts getting publicity and I do think its cool that they are brewing. The recipes look pretty good and Im sure the beer will be great.

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Old 09-02-2012, 04:43 AM   #126
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Why add the honey at the beginning of the boil for the porter? The recipe doesn't look half bad, I'll probably be giving it a go here sometime in the near future.

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Old 09-02-2012, 04:43 AM   #127
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Should we assume that the whitehouse has state of the art filtration? Maybe they are brewing with RO water and add the gypsum because of that.
I would assume for security reasons they have a water filter system to end all water filtration systems.

And probably a super secure incoming water source.
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Old 09-02-2012, 05:24 AM   #128
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Why add the honey at the beginning of the boil for the porter? The recipe doesn't look half bad, I'll probably be giving it a go here sometime in the near future.
Adding raw honey to cold wort could result in an infection.

But i agree that adding it that early doesn't make sense if you want to taste the honey.

Add it at 5 minutes from flameout if you want the flavor.
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Old 09-02-2012, 05:48 AM   #129
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Adding raw honey to cold wort could result in an infection.
Not typically.
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Not typically.
Probably true.

But it's possible, and i don't see a lot of recipes where honey is added to cooled wort. Mostly during the boil, at flameout, or in secondary.

No baddies can thrive in sugar at that concentration but some stuff can survive dormant in it. And most of that stuff can't survive in wort owing to the ph and hops.
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