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Old 03-13-2007, 02:28 PM   #11
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I read your first post and come off with the impression that you pref BMC style products with a few SA lagers thrown in...the general hoppy/malty craft beers don't seem to appeal to ya. Nothing wrong with that 'cept most beergeeks prb won't relate.

pale lagers and pils are how you roll.

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Old 03-13-2007, 02:29 PM   #12
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You definitely have to give IPAs a chance about once every couple months. You start adjusting to flavors and I think we all end up liking them eventually. I think the brewing experience just opens you to more hop flavor and aroma.

Sounds like my mom at the dinner table trying to convince me that I would eventually like lima beans.

...sorry mom, I still don't like em.
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Old 03-13-2007, 02:50 PM   #13
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Nah, my point was that tastes do change over time. I hated brussel sprouts, broccoli and mustard (not mixed together) as a kid. I'm glad I gave them another shot every now and then.

My point is that bitter/hoppy is something that grows on you. I mean, if all you ever had was brown ale, that initial IPA is going to punch you in the face. If you slowly explore down mildly hoppy pales, you get a taste for hops.

I was also saying that brewing in general gets you into hops. Smelling them in raw form gets conditioned as a "good" thing if you have fun brewing.

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Old 03-13-2007, 03:04 PM   #14
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Nah, my point was that tastes do change over time. I hated brussel sprouts, broccoli and mustard (not mixed together) as a kid. I'm glad I gave them another shot every now and then.

My point is that bitter/hoppy is something that grows on you. I mean, if all you ever had was brown ale, that initial IPA is going to punch you in the face. If you slowly explore down mildly hoppy pales, you get a taste for hops.

I was also saying that brewing in general gets you into hops. Smelling them in raw form gets conditioned as a "good" thing if you have fun brewing.

....that was supposed to be a joke, sorry for the misunderstanding.
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Old 03-14-2007, 03:29 PM   #15
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I find I like a beer with body and flavor, but no flavorings.
My first preference is for stouts and porters but I also like hoppy beers and most dark ales.
However I have not tried a beer with extras I really like. That includes chocolate and coffee stouts, fruit ales, pumpkin ales and spiced Christmas ales.
I do not like any of the BMC beers I have tasted. I can't even stand to drink them. And I don't really care for the pale microbrews I have tried.
I didn't even start drinking beer until I was introduced to Guinness and microbrews. So I'm not so sure that full flavored beer is an acquired taste. It may be that most people actually prefer a very light tasting beer.
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Old 03-14-2007, 04:10 PM   #16
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It may be that most people actually prefer a very light tasting beer.
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You've hit the nail on the head. That's why Bud and Miller are as popular as they are and why just about everyone I know won't drink anything but. Especially beers that have a strong bitter aftertaste.

Clearly I don't agree with that assessment, but when I have guys tell me that *Pabst* and *Old Milwaukee* are a bit too strong flavored for them, I have to wonder if they aren't just looking for alcohol in carbed water.

In the case of megabrews, I will drink Miller, Pabst, Schlitz, Old Milwaukee, Point, or Old Style if I must. I don't mind Bud, but it gives me a headache.


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Old 03-14-2007, 06:00 PM   #17
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I can totally relate, msmith81.

After drinking commercial brews for more than 30 years, I have started to really try and explore what it is I want in a beer, or maybe more importantly, what I DON'T want. I had tried micro-brewery beers a few times, when I was younger, but having been conditioned to drinking mega quantities of BMC-style beers, felt they were too heavy, too strong, and drinking more than one filled me up. I tried the wheats and other pale beers, but I just didn't really enjoy the flavors that much.

Then, the Michigan Brewery opened up fairly near my house, and I would stop in once in a while and check out the offering, and liking the free peanuts (and liking throwing them on the floor), I found that the IPA was GOOD, and soon after found that I was just about addicted to the stuff. I don't like the Browns, Nut Browns, Wheats, or flavored beers, like cherry, pumpkin, etc, and about all I can say that I really like is the IPA (7.25%), and the Russian Imperial Stout (12.9%). I DO like the hint of chocolate and coffee in some of the darker beers, and surprisingly I DO like the stronger alcohol level beers. I really can't taste the strength of the stronger beers, but I sure feel it, which is kind of a downside to drinking much of a 'session'. But maybe I've been trying the wrong beers all this time, to start with, and looking for a better BMC styled beer and that wasn't what I should have looked for. Now, maybe I've had a change in tastes, or maybe I am just sick to death of drinking light BMC's; I really don't know... but I am getting interested enough to do a lot of research, and try to learn WHY I like some and not others.

Another point I'd like to make is that I generally consume mega-quantities of light beer on my boat, in the hot sun, for the whole day, and I can't see how the convenience of cans-coolerwise, low alcohol, and portablity of canned BMC's will ever be overtaken in that respect. But I want to get set-up to make my own, and I may just learn how to do lagers well enough to be totally free of industrial beer.

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Old 03-15-2007, 03:48 AM   #18
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Appreciate everyone replying.

Sometimes, and I don't know if anyone else feels this way, it feels like there's a stigma for not liking pale ales, stouts, whatnot. I frequently hear that I might as well just drink Bud because I don't drink real beer or something. There's a feeling out there that if you drink lagers, your not drinking right. Which I find weird and annoying. It's not my fault that big breweries make varieties of these beers that are too light. It shouldn't catagorize the whole segment. Yet I find it does a lot.

If there wasn't a want for lagers and pilsners, nobody would have invented the method and stuck with it.

I'm finding that a good lager, with lots of calories, makes me the happiest. I can drink Pale Ales and others, but it doesn't make me smile, but it won't leave me mad. It just leaves me wanting something else... with more flavor.

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Old 03-15-2007, 04:54 AM   #19
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I like all sorts of Ale's, Porters,stouts, and IPA's. Only beers i really dislike are coors,miler, and German Wheat.

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Old 03-15-2007, 05:38 AM   #20
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Every since I started homebrewing I have tried alot more commercial beers. Most of the time when I go to the local package store, I pick something different just to try it. (I'm running out of choices). So far, I really haven't found a beer I didn't like. I've tried numerous styles and I will say that IPA's are my least favorite, but even so I like them now and then (The Red Hook IPA damned good IMO).

I am not including BMC in the above discussion. I have always hated Budweiser, and I had a coors light a few months ago and thought my carbonated urine would have tasted better.

I think it will take something totally off the wall like a jalepeno beer or something totally bizarre before I will find something that turns me off.

Anyone else seem to like just about everything or is it only me?

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