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Old 11-18-2012, 05:01 PM   #171
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No, it is not. Genetic modification involves the implanting of genetic material from one species into another when these species have absolutely nothing in common and couldn't possibly be crossed naturally. Selective breeding is just that.
It's still genetic modification.

It's not natural for dogs to have floppy ears, but through genetic manipulation via selective breeding we have floppy ears.

We've even bred things to an idiotic level - look at all those poor pugs who can barely breathe, their very existence is borderline cruelty.
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Old 11-18-2012, 08:07 PM   #172
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Found in some citra hops.Saw it on beerpulse don't know from where.
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Old 11-18-2012, 08:29 PM   #173
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Found in some citra hops.Saw it on beerpulse don't know from where.
So that's why my hopsdirect order had an extra 3 ounces in it!
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:48 PM   #174
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So that's why my hopsdirect order had an extra 3 ounces in it!
No, that's the genetic modification they keep talking about.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:22 PM   #175
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"...a product is regulated as genetically modified if it carries some trait not previously found in the species whether it was generated using traditional breeding methods (e.g selective breeding, cell fusion, mutation breeding) or genetic engineering."

Straight from the FDA dude
Since the FDA doesn't regulate GMOs and you mispelled Monsanto in your first post, I'm still inclined to believe you have no idea what you're talking about. Of course, this is a thread about Citra hops and not trying to make a stranger agree with you, so maybe we should all quit talking about it.

GMO = genetic engineering, not breeding dogs or hops. Picking which two dogs or hops are gonna screw ain't the same as putting genetic info from bacteria into corn.
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Old 11-19-2012, 03:05 PM   #176
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GMO = genetic engineering, not breeding dogs or hops. Picking which two dogs or hops are gonna screw ain't the same as putting genetic info from bacteria into corn.
... and this why I know you have no idea what your talking about lol

that being said, if anyone else wants to continue this convo go for it. Im not here to give a biology lesson to uninformed people so Im done.
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Old 11-19-2012, 03:08 PM   #177
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...and you mispelled Monsanto in your first post, .
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... Even though it is a bit MONSANTO like...
and looks like i spelled it right to me lol
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Old 11-19-2012, 03:18 PM   #178
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You're free to believe what you want, but when I order a GMO PCR analysis I only care about genetically engineered bits of DNA (such as those found in Bt corn and soy or roundup ready variants). No one cares about naturally-bred traits. Even Europe allows naturally-bred strains where they outright ban genetic engineering.

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Old 11-19-2012, 03:29 PM   #179
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I got lucky this year. I found a secret stash. There's a place near me that sells homebrew supplies, but it's not a homebrew shop. Since not too many people go there looking for beer making stuff, I've been able to buy citra and amarillo from them whenever I want. I don't know how they're getting the hard to find hops, and I don't care. Just glad to have a hook up.

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Old 11-19-2012, 04:05 PM   #180
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As much as everyone thinks there's a citra shortage, I think there is going to be plenty of citra to go around this year. Amarillo is the hop that's desperately short since they had a flood at their farm, and the yields are very, very low. Keep in mind Amarillo is only grown on one farm, and sometimes mother nature happens.

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