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Old 02-07-2014, 07:24 AM   #1
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Default whats up with the 2013 citra crop?

just cracked a new bag for brew day and thought it smelled "off". reminded me of summit with a blend of simcoe/apollo or something alike. lots of onion, garlic, real catty, etc. decided to open some citra i had left from 2012 to do a comparison and it was the normal juicy tropical citra that i love and expect. anybody else experience this from our most recent crop? fwiw, i decided to blend both crops for essentially a single hop citra 2xipa. very interesting aroma, the 2013 def dominated in pungency. tough to say if its due to it being fresher crop...

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Old 02-07-2014, 09:21 AM   #2
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If it smells onion or garlic, it's probably oxidized. I have 2013 citra and it's same as last year, IMO


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Old 02-07-2014, 09:29 AM   #3
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If it smells onion or garlic, it's probably oxidized. I have 2013 citra and it's same as last year, IMO
I have noticed that smell in wild hops growing around in the street. But hove come they are not get oxidized in the nature/during drying? Do they get harvested while the hop cones are green and closed?
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oxidized? doubt it. purchased from a reliable vendor vacuum sealed. if anything, the 2012 crop might be getting slightly oxidized from age. 2013 smell very fresh, just not the same characteristics from the typical citra. maybe this crop suffered some wind burn or got harvested too early? i dont know...

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It's an agricultural product. You can get one batch of citra from one field, and one from another and have differences. Not to mention the fact that there are a number of different farms producing the hop. There is a reason that a lot of brewers make trips to the hop brokers and hand select which lots of hops they are buying from.

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I used Citra the for the first time a few weeks back in a PA. I noticed the pungent garlic onion scent when i opened it but once it went into the beer (1oz at flameout) all that left and I got the classic tropical fruit flavors I expected citra to be.

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It's an agricultural product. You can get one batch of citra from one field, and one from another and have differences. Not to mention the fact that there are a number of different farms producing the hop. There is a reason that a lot of brewers make trips to the hop brokers and hand select which lots of hops they are buying from.
Also you have to realize that as homebrewer's we are second class citizens to breweries. They get their pick of hops for their contract's and we get the crap that's left over.

This maybe a bit different if you order the hops from Midwest/NB as they may be buying big enough batches to get this treatment, but i doubt it when compared to the big breweries like Sam Adams, etc that use it.

Listening to Jamil talk about how stupid the Hop farming market is was rather enlightening. Its one of those things you hear and dont believe, then when you realize its true you cant help but laugh at how stupid some things in this world are that you cant do anything to change.
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