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5B-brewing 02-03-2013 04:30 PM

What makes a homebrewer advanced?
A friend referred to me as an "advanced" homebrewer the other day. It got me thinking. Even though I've been brewing for more than 10 years, the last year and a half doing all-grain, taught others to brew, and I am starting to formulate my own recipes, I consider myself an intermediate.

There are definitely some on here that obviously deserve the label of "advanced expert." Where is that line? What determines the lines between beginner, intermediate, and advance homebrewer? (For myself, I won't even come close to considering myself advanced until I can understand water chemistry.)

I guess an even more important question is: Does it matter? As long as we are making good beer that we ourselves like to drink, do labels mean anything?

Denny 02-03-2013 04:32 PM

It doesn't matter to me. I've brewed 431 batches, given seminars, written magazine articles.....many would consider me advanced. I consider myself a homebrewer just like everyone else.

ArtimusBeerimus 02-03-2013 04:34 PM

This. Without... you know... all the fancy credentials. :)

duboman 02-03-2013 04:34 PM

IMO, labels don't really mean much if you enjoy the hobby and your product.

That being said my personal take is an advanced homebrewer is one that fully understand all aspects of the science behind the production of beer from water chemistry to diastatic properties of grain and microbiology of yeast and I am not one of them but learning s l o w l y................

unionrdr 02-03-2013 04:42 PM

Good point. Guess I can give it a shot. Advanced brewer to me would be one that understands all aspects of brewing well enough to get great beer everytime & in less time than us average brewers.
I'm no beginner,but I'm not sure I'd even say I'm intermediate either. Even though I'll be doing my 3rd partial mash next week. C'mon Fed-Ex from midwest!! At this point,I honestly have to say that one thing a good brewer should have is imagineering skills. That ability to leap beyond the normal confines of home brewing to come up with your own version of a style you enjoy. Something truely your own. I also try to learn as much as I canabout every aspect of every brew. Even if that's just observational,which is part of scientific investigation. Then put it in your notes to improve your brewday next time.
It's this collection of knowledge over time that makes an advanced brewer. Just depends on how fast you learn & what you can spend on this hobby. Can't wait till the 16th to crack my 2nd PM pale ale. It's my own recipe. And a happy accident at that. It'll get me one step closer to my ale that thinks it's a light lager I named "Hopped & Confused". Version 2 will be next weekend maybe.

5B-brewing 02-03-2013 05:45 PM

Yeast is definitely another advanced subject I want to learn about. I do starters, but harvesting/propagating yeast and long term storage are on my "to learn" list.

Komodo 02-03-2013 05:50 PM

I'd say it's when you stop freaking out and start relaxing and having a homebrew.

TyTanium 02-03-2013 06:00 PM

Advanced is the guy who's beer is better than yours.

That is, never attainable for yourself, but something that drives you toward perfection but you never quite achieve. And if you consider yourself to have achieved that, we have a different word for that...EAC.

Waynep005 02-03-2013 06:02 PM

I think an advanced homebrewer is the brewer that has no problem sharing one of his or her brews with anyone no mater how well they know the person.

OldWorld 02-03-2013 06:02 PM

An advanced home brewer is somebody who can double decoction mash an authentic really good pilsner...Any jerk-o can make a pale or ipa.

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