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Old 03-27-2007, 03:47 AM   #1
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My favorite BIL is getting married and I've taken on the commission of making a batch for his enjoyment once the ball & chain attached to his ankle.

He is a Bud Light drinker. Says he likes Heineken and Sammy's. He probably would drink SA light I'm thinking, but I don't think it would be his fav. He drank one of my summer wheats at Xmas and thought it was OK. He drank several. This wheat was crystal clear and very light. Not a traditional hefe.

His 30YR sentence starts in August so I'm thinking summery and not too hoppy.

I would like some suggestions. Here is few guidelines.

  • Extract Preferred w/ grains steep
  • Must be an Ale
  • No Budlight Clones

I was looking at a Kolsch or a Cream Ale w/Ale yeast.

What do think or recomend? (BTW - He wants to start makin' his own)
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Old 03-27-2007, 03:56 AM   #2
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Cream Ale is a little heavy for a summer brew, IMHO.

Perhaps a Blonde Ale is more in order based on his preferences. If you want a little more character, maybe a Pale Ale that just barely meets the style guidelines for bitterness/hoppiness.

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Default ixnay on the Cream Ale

Yah, I think the Cream Ale now that mention it is too heavy. I'm going to have to check out a blonde ale. Thanks!

Can you recommend a recipe or kit?

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A quick search turned up this kit at Austin Homebrew. Skip the 1% alcohol boost - it's a bit of a gimmick, and it won't help your beer.

I've always been happy with AHS, but I've never brewed one of their kits. Perhaps someone here has a good recipe to share.

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My blonde seems to go over fairly well with BMC guys . . .An extract version would roughly be . . .

9lbs of the lightest colored DME you can find
1lbs of carapils
1lbs of wheat malt

steep grains
bring to boil
add extract

Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
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1.00 oz. Hallertau Northern Brewer Whole 8.50 17.3 30 min.
1.00 oz. Spalter Whole 4.50 4.8 15 min.
1.00 oz. Perle Whole 8.25 5.5 5 min.


yeast = wyeast 1272 American Ale Yeast II

ferment near the high end of the limits (68 - 70 degrees)

**EDIT**
dont forget the irish moss, I did and the chill haze is very noticeable

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Pumba,

You don't think 9#'s of DME is too heavy? Even if its extra light?

What was the gravity numbers?

Please clarify this hop call out too.

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1.00 oz. Hallertau Northern Brewer Whole 8.50 17.3 30 min.
Maybe:??
1.00 oz. Hallertau or Northern Brewer Whole 8.50 17.3 30 min.

1.00 oz. Hallertau & Northern Brewer Whole 8.50 17.3 30 min.
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A quick search turned up this kit at Austin Homebrew. Skip the 1% alcohol boost - it's a bit of a gimmick, and it won't help your beer.

I've always been happy with AHS, but I've never brewed one of their kits. Perhaps someone here has a good recipe to share.

I made that kit awhile ago and it was very popular with my Coors light drinking roomate. I would recommend it for your buddy.
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Cream Ale is a little heavy for a summer brew, IMHO.


From the BJCP guidelines...

Flavor: Low to medium-low hop bitterness. Low to moderate maltiness and sweetness, varying with gravity and attenuation. Usually well attenuated. Neither malt nor hops prevail in the taste. A low to moderate corny flavor from corn adjuncts is commonly found, as is some DMS. Finish can vary from somewhat dry to faintly sweet from the corn, malt, and sugar. Faint fruity esters are optional. No diacetyl.[/SIZE]

Mouthfeel: Generally light and crisp, although body can reach medium. Smooth mouthfeel with medium to high attenuation; higher attenuation levels can lend a “thirst quenching” finish. High carbonation. Higher gravity examples may exhibit a slight alcohol warmth.

Overall Impression: A clean, well-attenuated, flavorful American lawnmower beer.

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Sounds like a pretty nice summer ale to me... if anything, maybe a little too Bud Light-ey.
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When I was thinking about Yuri's comment about being too heavy, I was thinking about being higher in ABV.

The 9#'s DME for the Blonde, shouldn't that make it limited to a 1-2 pre-lawmower beer? Assumes a riding mulcher and 1-2 acres. (My Place)

Being safety minded my BIL will be pushing a bagger.

I could always drink a cream ale all year round. But its not for me. My last cream ale I hopped with homegrown hops. Its not bitter but the flavor & aroma is quite noticable. Maybe more noticeable because it was different. The lady folks liked it because of the floral-citrus smell and residual sweetness.

I'm gonna check on the blonde. No opinions on the kolsch idea?

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Pumba,

You don't think 9#'s of DME is too heavy? Even if its extra light?

What was the gravity numbers?

Please clarify this hop call out too.

Was:
1.00 oz. Hallertau Northern Brewer Whole 8.50 17.3 30 min.
Maybe:??
1.00 oz. Hallertau or Northern Brewer Whole 8.50 17.3 30 min.

1.00 oz. Hallertau & Northern Brewer Whole 8.50 17.3 30 min.
Extra light is only in reference to the color. 9lbs put it at the upper end of the OG for the style (1.054) and high end for the ABV since it should finish out around 1.008 - 1.013. If your worried about the ABV being too high for him cut it back a bit to get it in the range you're looking for but remember to cut back the hops to stay in the same ratio (original IBU's = about 26 - 27)

As for the Hops . . . there are 2 types of Northern brewers that i know of, the US version and the German version, IIRC Hallertau NB = German. They are just about identical AFAIK except the HNB have a bit higher AA's. Either should work IMHO

**EDIT**

FWIW when I first started on this beer it was going to be a cream ale but then decided I really didnt like the idea of corn in beer. I had just made a recipie I saw for Thomas Jeffersons beer in BYO and tried it out and IT WAS FREEKING HORRIBLE and it had a big chunk of corn in the recipie. It was the first beer I dumped out straight from the primary because it tasted so bad I couldnt stand the idea of wasting time on it by bottling it. The 2 styles are so simular I figured I would get rid of the corn and make it a blonde and it turned out great.

If you really want to make a kolsch, kolsch yeast is acceptable for the style so you could use it instead of the American Ale II yeast

check out styles 6A, 6B and 6C, just about the same beer but with minor tweeks
http://www.bjcp.org/styles04/Category6.html#style6A
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