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Old 10-18-2009, 01:25 PM   #21
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I am a novice.

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Old 10-18-2009, 01:35 PM   #22
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I think these factors are the most important (to me):

1. Number of years actively brewing.
2. Number of batches brewed.
3. Number of different styles of beer brewed.
4. Quality of the end product. (last but NOT least)
5. Consistency and Repeatability
Hmmm...

I can answer yes to all of these.

1. I've been brewing actively for about a dozen years.
2. I lost count years ago on how many batches I've brewed.
3. I've brewed more styles than I can remember, even some that I didn't care for.
4. My beers come pretty darned good, if I do say so myself.
5. The repeat recipes, a.k.a. my "house beers" come out the same every time.

I guess that would make me an "advanced brewer".

BUT........

I think there should be a fourth category: Expert. This I am not. I think an expert brewer is one that know and understands a lot of the science behind it, and can apply it to his/her brewing. This is not me. I know what I know from sheer experience. I can tell you what a certain procedure or ingredient will do to your beer, but I can't always tell you why. So while I think I may be an advanced brewer, I'm no expert.
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Old 10-18-2009, 02:10 PM   #23
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People brew for different reasons so there are just as many qualifiers for different levels of success.

If you're just doing it for yourself, to make interesting beverages, I think you've won as soon as you start making beer you're happy drinking. A step up from there is being able to make something taste exactly how YOU want it to.

If you're of the opinion that success is measured by the outside world, it gets a lot harder. I think the only way to judge it there is whether you make beers people would pay for or that score well in large competitions. In that regard, brewing for a successful brewpub or winning Ninkasi is about as advanced/expert as it gets.

Personally I think I'm a novice on the verge of intermediate if I can iron a couple more things out. I'm hypercritical of my beers and I'm starting to make stuff that I'm proud of, both to drink and share. From a competition level, I consistently score in the high 30's and that says "passable" to me. Low 40's would be nice.

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Old 10-18-2009, 02:15 PM   #24
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I am very newbie... only 3 batches in but loving it..

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Old 10-18-2009, 03:02 PM   #25
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I am my own Brewmaster, and I'm good with that.

All kidding aside, I would classify myself as a beginner within sight of intermediate. I still do extract + steeping, but that's because I figured I could learn more about the complexities of the flavors of the grains & hops I'm using by keeping one thing constant (extract), and still have a mostly drinkable beer. I'm working on formulating my own recipes, mainly as experiments, and am tweaking them a little at a time. I use BeerSmith, keg, built my own Jockey Box, and haven't bought a kit in a while.

No where near advanced, but closely edging up the ladder.

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Old 10-18-2009, 03:10 PM   #26
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Equipment has nothing to do with the level of ones experience.

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Old 10-18-2009, 03:14 PM   #27
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I don't know where I'd rate myself. I do somethings well and other things I'm working on. I guess novice/intermediate would apply to me. I do use some advanced techniques, like decoction mashing, and I like the results I get most of the time. But I have yet to say, "YES! That beer is perfect and the pinnacle of my brewing career!"

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Old 10-19-2009, 03:38 AM   #28
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Equipment has nothing to do with the level of ones experience.
I disagree with this statement. I think it takes experience to properly utilize certain pieces of equipment. Also, there are people who have worked hard developing kegerators, brewing machines, and other items because they've experienced brewing without them and have taken the time to develop their personal brewery to improve their beer.
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Old 10-19-2009, 12:31 PM   #29
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I'm a novice, there is no doubt about that.

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Old 10-19-2009, 01:09 PM   #30
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I don't know where I'd rate myself. I do somethings well and other things I'm working on. I guess novice/intermediate would apply to me. I do use some advanced techniques, like decoction mashing, and I like the results I get most of the time. But I have yet to say, "YES! That beer is perfect and the pinnacle of my brewing career!"
I think its fair to give you a 10
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