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Old 06-21-2013, 03:12 PM   #1
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What is that Keg doing at a Goodwill store

Good article and a reminder that ALL kegs are property of a brewery. If you see a keg for sale on Craigslist or in a Goodwill store, it IS stolen. Return all kegs to the store, distributor or brewery.

You are purchasing the contents of the keg. Not the keg itself.
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Old 06-21-2013, 03:28 PM   #2
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That is, unless they are decomitoned right. Otherwise everyone brewing with keggles is breaking the law.

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Old 06-21-2013, 03:37 PM   #3
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They may have assumed it was a retired keg. Not all kegs out there are stolen.

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Actually, most keggles out there ARE stolen. If the keg still has the name of the brewery embossed on it, it remains the property of the brewery.

Breweries DO NOT EVER sell kegs to scrapyards. MillerCoors and ABInBev have NEVER sold any decommissioned kegs.

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While reading the article, I had a question come to mind. If a brewery puts the following label on all their kegs, “Property of Silver City Brewery. If found please return. Resale of this keg by a non-licensed entity is a crime and punishable by law,” and it is in fact a crime punishable by law, then why did the Seattle police department refuse to investigate the keg that was sold by goodwill?

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Actually, most keggles out there ARE stolen. If the keg still has the name of the brewery embossed on it, it remains the property of the brewery.
What? This isn't true at all. Breweries go out of business and their kegs get sold to the public all the time. They don't sit there with angle grinders scraping off the (now defunct) brewery name, either. That's like saying all corny kegs are property of Pepsi or Coca-Cola if it has a sticker on it.
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Old 06-21-2013, 04:32 PM   #7
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I have to agree that kegs are sold off all the time.

My brewing techniques books have ads all over for bulk keg buys and single keg buys. And, breweries sell off warped or dented kegs too.

I do agree, that many times a commercial keg is commondeered for personal use and is not legal.

It's like a firearm, if u have documentation, then it's all good!

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There have not been that many brewery failures. Most keggle pictures. I see posted on this site have AB or Microstar kegs. I have even seen New Belgium kegs. The kegs are property of the brewery

Please look at http://www.kegreturn.com/ set up by the Brewers Association

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Homebrewers

Breweries that you know and love are counting on you to play a huge role in solving a very real, very expensive problem which hurts the craft beer movement and brewers large and small.

Use KegReturn.com to help you contact a brewery whose keg you currently hold, or to let them know about the location of their strays. KegReturn.com was created as a tool to help all beer industry stakeholders do the right thing.


Breweries almost never sell kegs; kegs become strays for many reasons, but remain brewery property.

Deposits paid do not convey title to a keg; kegs always remain brewery property.

Repurposing a keg for homebrewing is illegal unless the keg was purchased legally from the brewery or from a keg manufacturer.

Always insist that repurposed kegs you purchase for homebrewing are accompanied with clear title indicating the seller and you both came to own the keg legally.

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While reading the article, I had a question come to mind. If a brewery puts the following label on all their kegs, “Property of Silver City Brewery. If found please return. Resale of this keg by a non-licensed entity is a crime and punishable by law,” and it is in fact a crime punishable by law, then why did the Seattle police department refuse to investigate the keg that was sold by goodwill?
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As for Silver City Brewing, Kurt tells me that all of their kegs will soon have a sticker that says, in essence:

“Property of Silver City Brewery. If found please return. Resale of this keg by a non-licensed entity is a crime and punishable by law.”
So the Goodwill Keg did not have that sticker.
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What? This isn't true at all. Breweries go out of business and their kegs get sold to the public all the time. They don't sit there with angle grinders scraping off the (now defunct) brewery name, either. That's like saying all corny kegs are property of Pepsi or Coca-Cola if it has a sticker on it.
And this is why places like Goodwill should not be required to contact potentially defunct breweries to see if this particular keg is stolen, decommissioned, etc. It would be great if they did, but requiring them implies penalty for not complying.

Also, someone in the comments for that article made a parallel to deposits for car rentals and that shouldn't imply that the renter can just have it for the deposit price. Car rentals work off access to valid credit cards as proof of identity and a paper trail in case it's stolen/damaged (and charging the card in the case of damages).
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