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Old 09-07-2009, 12:01 PM   #1
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Default What the heck is Malto-Ferm????

I got up early this morning to brew a batch of Texas Bock all grain I got from AHS. I was plugging the ingredients into Beer Smith as I always do and quickly discovered the color based on the malts was nowhere near a bock. Now, they included a 1.50 oz. packet of something called Malto-Ferm ind it is the color and consistancy of dark hot chocolate mix. I can only assume this will color the brew to get it closer to the correct SRM range(?) but cannot find this in Beer Smith or online.

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Never mind - I found an old post here from Forrest describing this:

"We use Brewer's Gold hops. We also use a special ingredient that they use: Briess Maltoferm. Maltoferm is a beer colorant used to change a beers color to the SRM you want. You are supposed to use it very sparingly because it has a lovibond rating of approximately 7000! Yes, 7000. If you use 1.5 ounces of Maltoferm per 5 gallons (more than normal amount to just color) it is an very inexpensive way to give some roasted flavor and color.

Now that is what you call a Cheap Trick.

Mommy's alright, Daddy's alright.... (sorry)

Forrest"

Now - how do I plug this into Beer Smith so the color comes out right...

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Could be something like that? Just malt coloring.

edit: you found it while I was typing. I don't see anything like it in beersmith. You might be able to create the ingredient though.
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edit: you found it while I was typing. I don't see anything like it in beersmith. You might be able to create the ingredient though.
ASSuming AHS matched this up corectly to style, I show this must have an SRM value of 1700 for 1.5 oz. according to the Beer Smith range of 14.0-22.0 SRM for the style. That would put me about in the middle of that range using 6.5 lbs. of 6 row barley and 1.25 lbs. of flaked Maize plus 1.5 oz. of this Malto-Ferm.

Breiss has a color of 4.0 lovibond.
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The recipe is for a Texas Bock.
Do you want a real Bock or what Texans call a bock (Shiner)? They are not even close to one another.

I was mistaken. The Lovibond of Maltoferm is 3500 degrees.

Maltoferm® A-6001 Black DME
Lovibond
3500°

FAN (8 °Plato) 1900

Unique Characteristics/Applications
Maltoferm® A-6001 is a dry malt extract made from 100% Briess black malt and water, making it a perfect colorant for beer.

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Great info Forrest - I need this as I am adding it into Beer Smith for the next time I use it. Worked like a champ by the way - I was shocked at how well that little amount of powder colored the wort. Sitting in the fermentor now.

Not really looking for a real bock - heck, I am using ale yeast as I don't have the setup for lagering yet. Just looking for some darker beer to start welcoming the Autumn in before switching to Porters and Stouts for the Winter.

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