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Old 01-19-2009, 01:53 PM   #21
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It just occured to me that this is a CAMRA debate for Americans


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Old 01-19-2009, 02:15 PM   #22
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Old 01-19-2009, 02:25 PM   #23
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It actually sounds more like the OP isn't into ale as much as lager. Of course that's a gross over simplification but it's probably having more to do with the fruity ester quality of most ale yeast. To try a few ales that are completely outside of APA/IPA territory, try a brown ale, porter or ESB. To confirm if it's lagers (in general) that you like, grab some Pilsner Urquell, Bock, Helles, Marzen, etc.
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Old 01-19-2009, 02:30 PM   #24
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Well, the comparison between Bud Ale and Celebration is way off, but most here already know that. It's very easy to assume they taste the same if it's been a while, and if you are averse to hops. However, I think that most people here would say that Bud Ale has enough hops to make it drinkable, while Celebration has just enough hops toe keep it from being an IPA style, but not by much.

Personally, I'd drink Bud Ale if that were the best being offered, but I'd go out of my way to drink a celebration. I'm a big fan of that kind and amount of hops.

If you want to learn to appreciate hoppy beers, I suggest buying a 6-pack of good strong IPA and drink one or two a day until it's gone. This will lower desensitize your tastebuds from the shock, and might allow you to taste the subtleness that you can find within the hops bitterness. At least once the bitterness isn't quite so bitter.

I also disliked IPAs and hoppy beers, but have since learned to love them. You can too!

+1 on the getting mixed beers. There are many many styles out there and there are bound to be several that you love once you taste them.
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Old 01-19-2009, 04:13 PM   #25
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Microbrewery: Up to 15,000 barrels per year.
Craft Brewery: Between 15,000 and 2,000,000 barrels per year.
Commercial Brewery:Anything over 2,000,000 barrels per year.

Source: Craft Brewer Definition

I read this in Papazian's book also.

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My 2 Cents:

Maybe the OP was finding similar flavors in the wide spectrum of beer tasting. While most of us don't find them similar in the least (seriously, that is quite a stretch), some people may find some similar tastes as they are both ales brewed here in the US. They both have a slightly hopped and malty flavor to them. Clearly SNCA has a million times more hops than BAA (crap IMO) and is brewed on a little smaller of a scale, the beers can have a similar taste to them in some people's perspectives.

I think that Bobby M may be on the right track. Maybe the OP likes the lighter feel/flavor of Lager.
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i know this is a little but the 2009 Craft Brewers Conference is going to be held in Boston this year...its also the week of my birthday
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Was there a born-on-date on the Sierra Nevada? Maybe you got an old 6-pack where the hops flavor has dropped out considerably.


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