Zabuza

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Title pretty much says it all - I want to try doing a wet hop hop bursted IPA. Has anyone done this before/had any success with it? I didn't find much on a few searches. The only concern I have is that some people say wet hops add some grass overtones, so hop bursting (adding a ton at like 20 minutes or less) might impart too much grass...does that seem like a legitimate concern or not?

I could do this two ways - bitter with dry hops (I'm thinking sorachi ace) and hop burst with the wet hops (which will be citra); or just hop burst with a ton of wet hops (probably citra and chinook).

Regardless, the latter is something I'm more interested in but if there's a problem with too many grassy flavors/aromas, would doing the former method counteract that problem sufficiently?

Eliterunner1

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I can't say as to whether or not there is a grassy flavor but I brewed one a few days ago using some dried bittering hops and then saturated the kettle with wet hops in that last 20 minute period. I also stirred it around breaking up the hops and let it stew with the heat off and covered. All I can say is so far it smells great in primary!

I've heard the main problem is some people will add an early addition wet hops and the prolonged boil will cause the grassy flavors. Although I have heard great things concerning all late hop additions, could be worth trying. Plus it's citra...your made in the shade.

Zabuza

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Chinook wet hops are selling out soon and I could use more advice than one person...

Or, at the very least, can anyone confirm eliterunner's post that so long as I add the wet hops with 20 mins or less I should avoid grassy favors (even if it's a ton)?

Eliterunner1

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This has a bit more on the subject. Not sure if you've read it or not.

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f13/hop-bursting-wet-hops-263727/

Zabuza

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Yeah I saw that, but it's not too helpful (sorry). The OP never follows up, some people talk about how many hops you'd have to use (pounds), and a guy ends it all saying he'd never do it because it'd be "swamp city." I need some well-founded advice or at least hear from someone who's tried it/knows it works.

Eliterunner1

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Yeah I only read the first few posts. Could be that you might just have to experiment if no one else with experience posts. I used wet hops the equivalent of 10 ounces of dry and it was okay, but I did use a 10 gallon kettle for a 5 gallon batch. I feel like "swamp city" is a little unfounded.

Zabuza

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Oh yeah, that guy was definitely being a tool.

The conversion ratio is 5 to 1, right? 5oz of wet to 1oz of dry?

Eliterunner1

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Well I used 5 gallons worth of wet hops, I also ended up bagging the same amount dried which ended up being around 10 oz. So I figured I had about 10 oz of dried hops wet status during my last 20 min of boil. So just to clarify during my last 20 min of boil I used wet hops to the equivalent of 10 oz of dried hops. It smelled great and it actually didn't take up too much space because I added them at different intervals.

Eliterunner1

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but yes the ration 5:1 is the norm

tgmartin000

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For mine I used 5 oz wet FWH, an oz pellet at 60, then about 15 oz wet at 10. Plus some leaf hops at knockout.

Just bottled yesterday, and didn't detect grass.