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09-27-2012, 03:38 PM
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Wee Heavy Tastes Like Solvent, Now What
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I am a newbie to All-grain brewing. I did my 4th batch the other day. I do not have an immersion chiller yet and I am still relying on the ice water in our laundry room sink for cooling the wort. I also just began learning the importance of using a yeast starter.
Long story short, I made a wee heavy about 8 weeks ago. The OG was 1.086. I was very happy about my OG given my rookie status with All-Grain.
Unfortunately, it took about 45 minutes to cool my wort and I only pitched on back of Wyeast into the wort. The LHBS was out of Scotch Ale Wyeast and they recommended I use the ESB Wyeast as they felt it was nearly the same.
I kegged the brew last week and it has very strong solvent notes and is almost undrinkable.
Do I leave it kegged for another 5 months and hope for the best or do I scrap this batch?
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09-27-2012, 03:44 PM
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Well 2 months is pretty young, so I'd let it mature. The solvent-y properties will probably go away with time. For next time, you need a starter for a wort that big!
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09-27-2012, 03:44 PM
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Sit on it. Time may resolve it somewhat.
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09-27-2012, 03:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keesh
For next time, you need a starter for a wort that big!
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Lessoned learned, I have a stirplate mixing my starter as I type this. 
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Last edited by kkimmes; 09-27-2012 at 03:48 PM.
Reason: typo
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09-27-2012, 04:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kkimmes
I am a newbie to All-grain brewing. I did my 4th batch the other day. I do not have an immersion chiller yet and I am still relying on the ice water in our laundry room sink for cooling the wort. I also just began learning the importance of using a yeast starter.
Long story short, I made a wee heavy about 8 weeks ago. The OG was 1.086. I was very happy about my OG given my rookie status with All-Grain.
Unfortunately, it took about 45 minutes to cool my wort and I only pitched on back of Wyeast into the wort. The LHBS was out of Scotch Ale Wyeast and they recommended I use the ESB Wyeast as they felt it was nearly the same.
I kegged the brew last week and it has very strong solvent notes and is almost undrinkable.
Do I leave it kegged for another 5 months and hope for the best or do I scrap this batch?
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I make a lot of ESBs (pretty much 10g a month for the last few years). I just made my first Scottish Ale. Mine was an 80 shilling with an O.G. of 1.045 and I used the Wyeast Scottish Ale yeast.
Anyway, my point. I don't have it kegged and carbed yet but from the sample I can say that the Scottish Ale yeast made a big difference. The ingredients are very similar between it and the ESBs I make, but the Scottish has a slightly smokey aroma (I didn't use any smoked malt) that is NOT present in my ESBs. It's my understanding that this smokey character is the signature of a Scottish Ale and I don't think you'll get it from an ESB yeast.
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09-27-2012, 04:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kkimmes
Lessoned learned, I have a stirplate mixing my starter as I type this. 
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Good, make sure to aerate as much as possible as well (the only way to over-aerate is if you're using pure O2) and to regulate your fermentation temps. The latter is just as, if not more, important than pitching rates IMO.
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09-27-2012, 04:11 PM
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I stir the heck out of my cooled wort using a sterlized whisk. I usually get a good response on the CO2 activity in the fermenter. My other all-grains have turned out really well, this is my first failure.
Also, I have a very nice cool basement and a temp gauge on my fermenter. I hold a very solid 66 F during fermenting.
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09-28-2012, 08:55 AM
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Another note, my LHBS insisted that there would be no taste difference between the scotch ale yeast versus the ESB yeast. I trusted him, but question if I should have.
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09-28-2012, 10:59 AM
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Scotch Ale yeast is tough. The only batch I ever gave away in its entirety was a Scotch Ale. Too bad you can't distill it.
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09-29-2012, 09:08 PM
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I'd say just wait. The flavor will improve in a few months.
I've brewed a few high gravity brews one had an OG of 1.086 and had a solvent/boozy flavor for 6 months. But was kegged after 2 months. and the other had an OG of 1.1 and had a distinct solvent/boozy flavor for about the first 4 months but was legged after a 1 month primary and 3 months in secondary @ fermentation temperatures. Both were made with US-05. But I pitched onto yeast cakes from a previous batch.
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