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Old 04-15-2011, 05:30 AM   #1
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Default Wait, how bitter?

Just about to start my RIS, and my IBU calcs are coming out waaay different than the recipe suggests it will be. Recipe says 66 IBU. Here's the schedule:

1.5 oz Columbus 14.4 AA @ 60 min
1.5 oz Centennial 10.3 AA @ 60 min

1 oz Columbus 14.4 AA @ 15 min

.5 oz Columbus 14.4 AA @ 5 min

I'm calculating 150ish IBUs...

Huh?

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Old 04-15-2011, 05:40 AM   #2
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Need to know your batch size to calculate.

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Old 04-15-2011, 05:44 AM   #3
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Seems like an aweful lot of hops in the first stage of the boil...FWIW I usually only add an ounce or so at 60 and progressively more towards the end. But I prefer aroma and flavor over bitterness qualities.

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Old 04-15-2011, 08:18 AM   #4
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Sorry, boil size is 3 gal, and batch is 5.

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Old 04-15-2011, 08:27 AM   #5
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Sorry, boil size is 3 gal, and batch is 5.
You should calc IBUs based on final volume. 3oz bittering with those hops is HUGE bitterness though. Too much.
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Old 04-15-2011, 05:43 PM   #6
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Well, what's weird is that it's a kit beer from the LHBS that calls for 2.5 oz Columbus at 60 minutes. They shorted me an ounce, so I subbed in 1.5 oz of Centennial. Either way, I can tell the bitterness is gonna be intense just from tasting the wort. I honestly don't think it tasted that bad... we'll see though.

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Seems like an aweful lot of hops in the first stage of the boil...FWIW I usually only add an ounce or so at 60 and progressively more towards the end. But I prefer aroma and flavor over bitterness qualities.
Right. But he's brewing a Russian Imperial. When was the last time you had an RIS with a lot of hop aroma and flavor?

So it is correct to pretty much just have a bittering addition. While 66 IBUs may sound like a lot, it's really not when taking into account the gravity of this beer. You really need some strong bitterness to balance out the sweetness.
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Well, what's weird is that it's a kit beer from the LHBS that calls for 2.5 oz Columbus at 60 minutes. They shorted me an ounce, so I subbed in 1.5 oz of Centennial. Either way, I can tell the bitterness is gonna be intense just from tasting the wort. I honestly don't think it tasted that bad... we'll see though.
The bitterness won't be intense.

Keep in mind that a beer of this size NEEDS AGE!!! It will be at least six months in the bottle before it's really at it's prime. In that time the bitterness will drop out significantly.
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I big beer needs a generous amount of hops since it will be sitting, but be careful; an RIS is not known for being hoppy! (Although I made something very similar to a RIS with lots of Cascade and it was VERY tasty!)

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Old 04-15-2011, 06:30 PM   #10
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I know that the hops will mellow out with age, and that a RIS should be pretty bitter to balance the malts. My problem is that the recipe says 66 IBU (nothing crazy, I think Stone's RIS is like 100). But what I can't figure out is why the recipe says 66 IBU and my calculations (done online) come up at 150ish. In any case, tasting the wort calmed my worries quite a bit. I think it's gonna be quite an interesting beer.

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