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Old 07-11-2009, 04:32 AM   #51
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Oh come on! Don't stereotype us as hippies! We have tons of rednecks, cowboys (there is a difference between those two), pseudo-intellectuals, and fake vein shallow uptight broads.
Kind of the point I was making( note: tongue in cheek). By the by, I'm a native Californian and I grew up on a small ranch in the foothills east of San Jose, in the shadow of Mt. Hamilton and Lick Observatory. I remember when it was referred to as 'Orchard Valley', not 'Silicon Valley'. How's that for dating ones self?
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Old 07-11-2009, 12:09 PM   #52
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There is though a specialist beer importer in Edinburgh with a pretty good range.
Just out of curiosity, where would one find this specialist beer importer? And do you have any idea of what they might have in stock?

To everyone else in this thread, is it really worth seeking out hoppy beers? Assuming they probably won't be terribly fresh.
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Old 07-11-2009, 03:16 PM   #53
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Beerkrump, I am pretty sure the area is labelled bourbon country because one, as I am sure you know there is a ton of whiskey distilling there, and if you look at the map there are very few breweries in that area. So that is the person who drew the map's little joke/explanation of why there are so few breweries in the south.

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I can't imagine that the US members of this forum are representative of the average beer drinker here in the US.
This is an excellent point.

Living in the middle of Illinois, the two closest craft brewer's I am aware of are Goose Island in Chicago and Schlafly in St Louis. As you all likely know they make some really good beers, goose island 312 being my favorite summer beer. Their bourbon county stout is also the best stout I have ever tasted, though I am not normally big on stouts.

I also think Sierra Nevada PA is somewhat overrated, but they are also credited with inventing american pale ale so you have to give them their due. I had their summer earlier this year and would highly recommend that as well.

Fat tire has been mentioned as a good amber, and i agree, but it is also the only good beer i've had from new belgium. The skinny dip summer was pretty good, but really should have been called fat tire light as it tastes very similar. The mothership wit was undrinkable to me. The leinenkugel amber is also comparable to fat tire and in my opinion maybe a bit better. Their sunset wheat is like a candy beer and really gross but seems to be pretty popular.

As for all the elitism talk, you have to take things for what they are. The people on ratebeer never seemed to learn this lesson. Don't compare 13 dollar a case beer to a 15 dollar a six. Pabst is good for what it is. So is old style, so is budweiser. This is like comparing a good five dollar bar burger to a fifty dollar porterhouse at a nice restaurant, which is to say there is no point and any time you make the comparison a reasonable person is going to think of you as an elitist prick who is missing the point.
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Old 07-11-2009, 05:03 PM   #54
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Just out of curiosity, where would one find this specialist beer importer? And do you have any idea of what they might have in stock?
It's Cornelius on Easter Rd. Loads of other beers elsewhere and wines too. They don't seem to have a website though, so you can't check what they have online so far as I can find. Lots of beers - British, Belgian, German, Czech, American...
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Old 07-11-2009, 07:53 PM   #55
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if you can find it, I recommend anything from ballast point. I've never had a bad brew from them and I find all their styles really well balanced. My favorite IPA is their Sculpin IPA, but it's a specialty brew they only release in limited quantities and locations a few times a year. but if you can find their Big eye IPA or their yellow tail pale ale I would highly recommend giving them a try.

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Old 07-11-2009, 11:03 PM   #56
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This map shows you how many breweries there are (look at the number of breweries in California alone!)
For a state as large as Texas, it's ridiculous the small number of breweries and brew pubs we have
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Beerkrump, I am pretty sure the area is labelled bourbon country because one, as I am sure you know there is a ton of whiskey distilling there
True there are big distilleries in Kentucky and Tennessee. However, try and google "distilleries in Alabama", or Georgia, or Mississippi, or Arkansas, and you'll find two, maybe three. If you do check KY and TN, make sure those distilleries are active. Many of the smaller stills have closed.

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, and if you look at the map there are very few breweries in that area.
Yes, I can see the map that's why I made the comment.

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So that is the person who drew the map's little joke/explanation of why there are so few breweries in the south.
Are you the person? If not, you cannot make this statement. The "Bourbon Country" comment is more likely to be a slight at the history of illicit stills and moonshiners. It was cheap. The producers of that map also made this one.

http://www.sloshspot.com/photos/blog...1246056700.png

If you look to the bottom of this one, you'll see "Comedy Zone Beer Trivia."

True, we don't have many breweries. We also have fewer large cities and industries and the population is largely blue collar. In other states fitting these criteria you'll find a similar ratio between people and breweries with out the jab.
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