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Old 09-23-2008, 10:51 PM   #1
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Default Touring Dark Horse Brewery Tomorrow: update after

A friend and co-worker is good friends with Aaron Morse, the owner/brewer for Dark Horse in Marshall, MI. He and I will be lead through the brewery tomorrow by Aaron. Are there any fans of the brewery that have any questions? I want to talk to him about the hop situation, obviously his process and (hopefully) some ingredients. I'm pretty excited, but don't know the guy so I don't know what to expect.
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Can you ask him why they use the strongest super glue known to man on their labels? Seriously a 2 day soak in a strong oxyclean solution won't budge those labels.

That's about my only question. I do LOVE thier black bier ale and Perkulator dopplebock. Give him props for those two creations.
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The black is nice, especially paired with their raspberry ale (a black and razz). That's a favorite at their brewpub. Have yet to try the doppel. If things get friendly enough I'll get in a poke about the labels
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Had a great time tonight. This brewery is on the rise and I'll give details tomorrow as I'm feeling mighty right and have to work at 5:30.
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From what I was told they'll give you a tour if you call ahead and make sure someone will be there. All though, when we made the trip, they had us down for the following Saturday and no one was there to give us the tour....

I look forward to the update, it's a great brewery.


Also, I second the glue question.
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nice I want to hear the update
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First, I have to again state that this place is in a crazy state of growth. Aaron took us through about two hours after we met there, and he was running around that place the entire time. I felt bad, and told my friend that we could do it again another night. He talked to Aaron and he told us that he WOULD be with us, he wanted to take us (three of us) through. He had distributors there, computer problems in the pub, and domestic (his son) things going on. The guy really impressed me. It was 6:00 at night and I smelled boiling wort outside. I sucked it up and worked pints of the freshest crooked tree IPA I've ever had until he finished up.

First off, I incorrectly stated that Aaron is the brewer here. He's stepped back in this growing brewery and mainly runs the business(brewery, brewpub, general store, etc.) now. But, from my take he's not far removed from any of it.

They work a 7/10 bbl. system, doing 4 batches a day. By my count they had five fermenters/aging tanks, and one bright tank. Three of the tanks held three batches, which they obviously brew back to back. They seem to move stuff through pretty quickly! Currently he's having some distributors wait 3-4 days on shipments! They are planning on adding a 25 bbl. system soon. I also spotted several oak barrels stacked neatly on one wall.

On the hop shortage: They have contracts, but they are feeling the pinch. He said that 6$/lb. hops are now 20$. No suprise there, but they are struggling to get some varieties. He named cascade/centennial and went to detroit to get some this week from a fellow michigan micro.

What really suprised me was when I asked about a house yeast strain. Maybe I was pushing, but he didn't act like it was a problem and openly told me that they used Nottingham for a number of their beers, and he told me what they used for the rest. I really don't remember what they were specifically but I do remember that there were all dry yeasts available to homebrewers.

All in all I thought that the whole experinece (my first) was really fun. I understood everything that he talked about, and felt kind of amazed at how simple it was. I would recommend seeing this place to anyone that is in the area. Some of the employees were wandering through the pub while we were waiting. My friend knew some of them and they all offered to show us the brewery. Our SWMBOs and kids came for pizza (which is excellent) as well. They have a large beer garden and even a sandbox for the little ones.
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